Got my Zeiss HD5 5x25x50mm today

[Chase Curtis]

I ordered mine should have it mid week. I agree that it is absurd that zeiss would put the 16 moa zero stop thing out on the market... why go through the RD only to come up with that when they new the public would balk at that.. but for me personally.. I don't really use the zero stop even on my NF or PST... Ill give a full report once i have it.. I am taking it with me next weekend to my range.. Ill take it out to 1000 and put it through the ringer...

 

[sp6x6]

Leupold did the same with the CDS dial. On my mark 4 I used a brass washer and small allen for a ZS that I can max scope out on.

 

[Iron Worker]

But you can take the "Zero Stop " out and use the entire range and then put it back in.

 

[sp6x6]

Yes but the point,then no ZS

 

[IdahoCTD]

WOW, I was on board till the 16.5 MOA when using the zero stop!! That effectively castrates what was looking like a great long range optic, can't even dial to a 1000 yards, dang!!!

You have a lathe. It's easy enough to build a aluminum bushing to go under the turret to limit the down travel. Even if it allows it to go past the zero it's fine provided it doesn't make it to the next zero.

 

[8andbait]

You have a lathe. It's easy enough to build a aluminum bushing to go under the turret to limit the down travel. Even if it allows it to go past the zero it's fine provided it doesn't make it to the next zero.

The problem with that is...the turret doesn't travel up and down externally. There is no visible movement of the turret in the upward direction for a full turn. I don't think it would make any difference due to the locking turret and how it functions. There are no graduation marks either just a simple white ring around the fixed portion that shows the turret is pulled up. When dialed up a full turn there is the same amount of space above the white line that there was at zero.


If someone does figure out how to not limit the up travel and retain the zero stop please post it. I suppose they were thinking about the cds when the designed it but a NF type zero stop would have been much better and probably doubled their sales.

Regardless, I really like the scope and I can get over 700 with my creedmoor and over 800 with my 6.5x284 so not a deal breaker for me but it would be nice to not have a limit.

gary

 

[IdahoCTD]

I can't tell from the pictures but you might find a low head screw in place of the one they have so that it doesn't catch when it goes around one revolution. You might be able to do a stop internally too. It looks to be hollow when the knob is removed. I'm not sure if that is the case when it is installed though.

 

[IdahoCTD]

I looked at the pictures again and I think the screw height thing would work but I also think you could use a washer under the black thing to limit the down travel rather than the screw and pin. It would be harder to make but from the pictures it looks like it would work.

 

[kcebcj]

I looked at the pictures again and I think the screw height thing would work but I also think you could use a washer under the black thing to limit the down travel rather than the screw and pin. It would be harder to make but from the pictures it looks like it would work.

A lot of people here on this forum could probably "Micky Mouse" something together including myself and make it work but why when there are many scopes that are in the same category with elevation turrets that work perfect. What attracted me to this scope was the short compact turrets. All the glass at this price point are going to be similar and I doubt I could tell the difference.

 

[8andbait]

I can't tell from the pictures but you might find a low head screw in place of the one they have so that it doesn't catch when it goes around one revolution. You might be able to do a stop internally too. It looks to be hollow when the knob is removed. I'm not sure if that is the case when it is installed though.

The black ring with the horizontal post on it has teeth on the bottom that make the adjustment happen so you can't really do anything there. There is not enough movement upward for one post to pass over the other in one turn. I can't see any way around it other than removing the zero stop verticle post completely which is easy to do.

As already mentioned by kcebcj, probably just deal with the 16.5 moa and retain the zero stop, remove the post and have no zero stop or just buy another product. I personally like the huskemaw the best out of any hunting scope I own or have seen but with the latest price increase I won't be buying any more of them. If you need a zero stop with no limit on the top I would recommend a Viper HS LR for much less money and call it good.

Gary

 

[sp6x6]

Yes on my cds, that was retro on a vari 3,turret didnt climb,so I marked revs to bottom in my bottom metal.The mark 4 that climbs was easy to do with a small set screw

 

[Sako7STW]

I wonder why Zeiss a company well established in the optics field known for quality products have their engineers design a zero stop that limits the elevation adjustment to 16.5 MOA. Mind boggling to me!!

Easy, 95% of the people that will buy the scope wont be dialing for 1000 yard shots. If it is that important then step up to the next line up. If the cheaper scope did everything the upper lines did then why would anyone buy one of the upper lines? So your answere is marketability.

 

[extreme]

Easy, 95% of the people that will buy the scope wont be dialing for 1000 yard shots. If it is that important then step up to the next line up. If the cheaper scope did everything the upper lines did then why would anyone buy one of the upper lines? So your answere is marketability.[/QUOT

FINALLY SOMEONE NAILED THE ANSWER..THINGS NEVER CHANGE ,,,YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR..

 

[kcebcj]

Originally Posted by kcebcj
I wonder why Zeiss a company well established in the optics field known for quality products have their engineers design a zero stop that limits the elevation adjustment to 16.5 MOA. Mind boggling to me!!

Easy, 95% of the people that will buy the scope wont be dialing for 1000 yard shots. If it is that important then step up to the next line up. If the cheaper scope did everything the upper lines did then why would anyone buy one of the upper lines? So your answere is marketability.

Marketing could have played a roll but I don't see it. The product has to compete with other products at its price point. Show me another scope that has limited elevation travel in the 800-1200 dollar bracket that this scope has to compete with.

You say that 95% of the people who buy this scope won't dial 1000 yards. I would say that if you ask that same 95% if they know about the limited adjustment most will say no and I'll bet 50% or more because of that would chose another scope. Nowhere on the Zeiss web site is the turret adjustments mentioned but they do mention the zero stop and the total travel which is like 65 MOA or so and with that info you would automatically think you have about 32 MOA of up travel depending on your zero. Misleading as hell!

I think Zeiss made a decision for whatever reason to go with the zero stop this way and then kept quiet about it. I find that a little disturbing and makes me wonder about the company as a whole.