Good article on why everyone either loves or hates the 6.5cr

[FEENIX]

Oh the coveted popcorn prize. GIF please.

 

[Chas1]

Anyone who "hates" on the CM obviously knows squat about guns or shootin. Otherwise they would just say, "Hey not a bad round for what it is." AND hipsters with man buns don't shoot Creedmoors. As a matter of fact, they are more than likely the ones signing petitions to take your gun rights from you. So, stop hating on the CM shooter and welcome him for what he is, your brother.

+1 we got bigger fish to fry...like those who hate all cartridges and guns.

 

[RckyMtnRutt]

I have always shot .30 cals since i was about 14 and have a bunch of them that take western big game with no problem. Bought my first suppressor and with that came a ctr 20" 6.5cm first impressions was very accurate and mild to no kick compared to the big boom sticks. First hunting rifle was a 7mm08 killed a few animals with it and it did okay. Since the 6.5cm is new this year, all it has killed is paper and for a stock gun out of the box it has grouped very well out to 800. With factory hornady ammo. Reloading tightened the groups up even more. Can it be compared to 30 cals?? Maybe only the 308...after that is not a conversation. If i had the money for a custom build id obviously pick a different cartrdige prc arc or any new offering with good velocities and bc. I used to hate on needmoor until i shot one....couldnt really find anything to hate on

 

[FEENIX]

Anyone who "hates" on the CM obviously knows squat about guns or shootin. Otherwise they would just say, "Hey not a bad round for what it is." AND hipsters with man buns don't shoot Creedmoors. As a matter of fact, they are more than likely the ones signing petitions to take your gun rights from you. So, stop hating on the CM shooter and welcome him for what he is, your brother.

^^^This!^^ It does NOT get any simpler than that. Sadly, our own brothers/sisters in the hunting/shooting world are our worst enemies.

 

[Creedmoor shooter]

This is exactly why I don't post much here anymore. I can't take the ignorance of the internet. Saying a 260 rem is 300 fps faster than a creed is just as bad or worse than the creedmoor fan boys. Or shooting long range with no range finder or ballistics app. I mean what planet are these guys even on? Hopefully Len extinguishes this dumpster fire of a thread. The whole forum has just gone stale with stupid topics. As a long time member it's sad to see. Ive learned a ton from this forum over the years, but its reached the apex for me on what I'm able to learn I feel. I hope everyone shoots straight and stays safe. Signing off

 

[ButterBean]

No rangefinder, no Kestrel, no wind meter. And a 308 and a 270. Man am I going back in time or what.

That's my whole point, The Needmoor is no better than the better than the the man shooting it, it's still better on paper but that's it , it's no better than anything else if you don't know how to use it

 

[Eeegadd]

I'm aware of the .300wm, .338lapua and .50BMG being adopted as Sniper rounds.

I think one recent evolution of sniper rifles has been a switch barrel system adopted.



It had 3 barrel s I think. One being b.308 for practice and use, a .300 magnum variant and one other. (Just found link)



I have a .300wm in a sporter and quite like it among others.

I can't vouch for the accuracy of that video but I take it the system vhas been adopted by the US military.

No 6.5cm in the contract package.

As for my cartridge choices I read, listen, research, consider and form an opinion.
Then I read enough to convince myself that the opinion I formed meets my requirements, wants needs and desires.

Then I read enough supporting evidence (disregarding the rest) to convince MYSELF, that my choice fits my requirements of the time or intended purpose.

The Big Boy above has it right.

The Creedmoor and it's High BC projectiles perform on paper.

Inside 500yards I've compared enough reviews to show the 7mm-08 is the better hunting round and that both probably should be limited to 500 for hunting!

For drop, drift, energy and velocity the 7mm-08 has a slight advantage over 6.5cm.

For long range target the 6.5cm performs in its class and does what it was designed for.

This however being a Long Range Hunting forum I suggest the 6.5 Creedmor is discounted as a long range Hunting round. By hunting I would suggest Coyote and bigger.

It's probably a good varmint round with the right projectiles.

I would consider it for hunting within reasonable ranges on small game with appropriate projectiles.

It probably has a place for junior hunters and the recoil sensitive but for hunting as always shot placement is paramount.

For now, I don't have a use for it and I can't help but make fun of it, Man Buns and the Latte crowd.

Thoughts on the 6.5prc?

 

[FEENIX]

I have made this offer to 8 folks I think on this site, and I'm jus using this for perspective, I'm not throwing the gauntlet down

"I have access up to 1 mile of shooting range while the crops are out, load up your high dollar stuff ( Needmoor in this particular instance) and head this way and I'll let you pick which rifle you want me to shoot ( I have 3ea ) 2 with Bushnell Forge's and one with a Bushnell Nitro ( all second hand stuff ) 308, 25-06AI and 270 respectfully, You set the gong wherever you want it past 500 yards, No Kestrel's, No Rangefinders and No Ballistic app of any kind, No spotters you call your own wind and then see who gets on steel first, and then we will see how much better the Needmoor is, I doubt that it will give any advantage I'll even switch to my Old SWFA straight 10X if it will make you feel any better, Indianapolis is the closest airport if you want to fly in, I'll pick you up there"

Brother, you behave!

 

[ButterBean]

^^^This!^^ It does NOT get any simpler than that. Sadly, our own brothers/sisters in the hunting/shooting world are our worst enemies.

I will clarify again "I think it's a great round" and I'm not a Hater, It's just not for me

 

[xsn10s]

All I know is I loved Ford trucks up until this week. Maybe I look closer at Chevy's and that off brand Dodge

 

[ButterBean]

Brother, you behave!

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I am Brother, I'm just trying to show a perspective, The Needmoor is obviously a great round, but it's no better than the trigger man, especially if your Average like me

 

[ButterBean]

All I know is I loved Ford trucks up until this week. Maybe I look closer at Chevy's and that off brand Dodge

That's something aint it ?

 

[FEENIX]

I will clarify again "I think it's a great round" and I'm not a Hater, It's just not for me

Meh ... average. Now, that is a much better attitude than hatred. As previously noted, hatred takes too much energy. I initially felt the same way as you did until I got behind it. I appreciate its capabilities better, but I have not explored the possibilities of handloading for it ... yet. I am still using factory ammo and capped the maximum range at 350Y for this combination on a deer-size game and smaller.

 

[Jud96]

That's my whole point, The Needmoor is no better than the better than the the man shooting it, it's still better on paper but that's it , it's no better than anything else if you don't know how to use it

It's 2021 man. Not 1950. If you're not using a rangefinder then you're doing long range wrong. The fact is with a range finder and a ballistically superior cartridge, your hit probability goes WAY up. There's no reason not to give yourself every advantage you can. If you're handicapping yourself than that's either for your own challenge or your own ignorance. You're not proving anything.