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Go west young man...

You asked about pros/cons of in/out of town, river valley, blm etc...

Like many, I spent quite a few years closer to a city, just for work purposes. You can get on edges, maybe 5 acres, but still a ton of people and limiting for hunting/shooting without driving. Yuk.

I finally got the chance to move back out to the country. Bought a chunk of acreage with a river on one edge of it and tens of thousands of acres of BLM and NF directly behind. Paradise. You can never go wrong with water and backing to public land.

I don't really see the point of living in town, even a small one, if you are into hunting, shooting and the outdoors. Best if you can do that from your back door. The bigger question for you will be how close do you need to what size town?

Most people would like to have at least a small town with some hardware, groceries and restaurants to get a few things within 20-25 min. Up to you and wife. If you have to drive 45 minutes, just to get a little milk, the wife may not like that (?), unless she's used to it.

The other question is what kind of big town/city do you need, and how close? Places like Durango, and Grand Junction in Western CO are decent sized, with about all you'd need, but they aren't cities. If you/wife want an actual city occasionally for whatever purpose, you need to factor that in. There are no cities close in W. CO. You'd have to be willing to drive 4-6 hours to Denver. If you don't need that, great. If you do, you may want to look for locations closer. Best way to lose the blessing of the wife is to go too remote too quick...kind of need to ease into those things sometimes when you're used to a big city close. Renting the first year isn't a bad idea. Also, towns, at least in CO, vary widely personality-wise (ski town, ranch town, etc.). You probably won't love them all - but that's a topic for another post.
 
If you vote Republican welcome to Colorado! Lol.
I live about 90 miles west of Durango and 30 minutes North of Cortez. Been here all my life (family homesteded here) and can't imagine living anywhere else. Fairly mild winters not to hot of summers with very low humidity. No we don't have as much water as Michigan (we are not half under water) there is plenty for farming and water activities.
The pot "culture" isn't bad. I haven't noticed much change other than the new high school it payed for.
The fishing isn't the greatest around here for fish size but lots of streams and lakes to fish. Most streams and rivers are on national forest or blm and accessible.
Taxes in Colorado suck. I work In North Dakota so I get the privilege of paying taxes in two states. The job market around Cortez is pretty slim. You better be good at more than one thing to make a living around here most of the time.
You may want to look around Montrose Co. It is a beautiful place with great people, plenty of hunting opportunities and great fishing. The black canyon and blue masa reservoir are some of my favorites.
If you have any questions about the area pm me. Good luck!
 
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Aspen, while we live near Pittsburgh we rarely go there. I've never lived even in a town atmosphere, ever, and my rural location, where I used to shoot clay birds in the back yard and sight in my 270 100 yards from the back door has changed so much that even though there are no new houses, that would never fly in today's world. It's just different now, and I hate it. I'd prefer to see no one, ever, except when I went to town, but I don't think that's realistic, especially if I want to wind up on a fishable sized trout stream.

The 20-30 minutes for groceries thing is about what I was thinking, and hopefully the same for a basic hospital within the same radius. Doesn't have to be a regional trauma center.

I can see that each town will have its own personality, and that's something we'd have to decide town by town.
 
If you vote Republican welcome to Colorado! Lol.
I live about 90 miles west of Durango and 30 minutes North of Cortez. Been here all my life (family homesteded here) and can't imagine living anywhere else. Fairly mild winters not to hot of summers with very low humidity. No we don't have as much water as Michigan (we are not half under water) there is plenty for farming and water activities.
The pot "culture" isn't bad. I haven't noticed much change other than the new high school it payed for.
The fishing isn't the greatest around here for fish size but lots of streams and lakes to fish. Most streams and rivers are on national forest or blm and accessible.
Taxes in Colorado suck. I work In North Dakota so I get the privilege of paying taxes in two states. The job market around Cortez is pretty slim. You better be good at more than one thing to make a living around here most of the time.
You may want to look around Montrose Co. It is a beautiful place with great people, plenty of hunting opportunities and great fishing. The black canyon and blue masa reservoir are some of my favorites.
If you have any questions about the area pm me. Good luck!

I'll take you up on that Predator...I will vote R, but I don't know if it will be enough to make a difference. I'm less interest in size than getting into fish. I watched a few YouTube vids from the Cortez area trout fishing, they looked OK to me.

I guess I will have to "lose" my 30 round P Mags before I get there if I wind up in CO. :rolleyes:

The other thing I am not a fan of is being only about to hunt one season/weapon. Like MT, you're looking at like 10 weeks to get an elk between archery and rifle. CO is 5 days for some of the rifle seasons, right, and you don't get archery too. That's a bummer, as is having to draw for a mulie.
 
I guess I will have to "lose" my 30 round P Mags before I get there if I wind up in CO. :rolleyes:

You can bring them if you have owned them since before the ban (it's on them to prove you haven't.) Also, outside of Denver, no LEO or prosecutor cares about the law unless they are tacking the charge onto some other crime they are charging you with. In the Springs you can buy unassembled 30-round mags in stores as "repair kits."
 
If you vote Republican welcome to Colorado! Lol.
Too many non-native Kommiefornians moving to Colorado. They came here from somewhere else to muck it up. Now they are unhappy and moving to Colorado to much it up.
 
Too many non-native Kommiefornians moving to Colorado. They came here from somewhere else to muck it up. Now they are unhappy and moving to Colorado to much it up.

They have a way of spreading. As an Easterner, I remember that being the case with Oregon and Washington a generation ago. Now that they've got those two all mucked up, it's CO and MT on the radar. It's a plague.
 
I think Aspen nailed it with his "How close do you want to be to what size town?"
Having moved to Wyoming from Minnesota 10 years ago, then moving 3 years ago to Montana, I can give you a few observations.
When I lived in Wyoming, I was right between Cody and Sheridan at the base of the Big Horn Mountains near the town of Shell.
I absolutely love that tiny little town, along with the closest "big" town (the one with groceries, hardware, etc) Greybull. There is nothing like living in a small community that is not close to any bigger city.
It is about an hour to Cody if you want a little more selection, and Billings, Montana is about an hour and a half away if you need more of the city stuff.
The hunting in the Big Horns was good and tags not too difficult to get, however during rifle season you had to share the mountain with a lot of people.
Bowhunting was awesome and not as crowded.
The fishing was good but I don't stream fish, I fish from a kayak- mostly on mountain lakes. One thing about stream fishing in Wy is that the landowner owns to the middle of the stream. You can float a stream, but in order to wade it you need permission from the landowner.
I believe that in Montana, you can wade as long as you stay below the normal high water mark.
Even since I've moved to Montana I still find myself fishing more in Wyoming than here.
Speaking of Billings, the area around Billings is decent. The people are friendly, jobs are fairly plentiful, and even though it's more of a farming area the mountains are not too far away.
The town of Red Lodge and the Beartooth Mountains are about an hour away, with some really nice small towns in between.
It's not as nice as Bozeman or other towns to the West, but it's not as expensive, either. There is good access to healthcare with two large hospitals in Billings, along with many smaller clinics and specialists. There is also a larger airport and it's right on the convergence of I90 and I94 for driving trips back East.
The hunting is awesome, with most tags relatively easy to get and access to land reasonably good. There can be crowds, but then so does everywhere else.
The weather, typically, can't be beat. It can be hot and dry in the summer, but generally not to an extreme. Same with winter- it CAN get cold and snowy but generally it's not bad.
I hope that answers some of your questions! If you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me!

Good luck on your search!

Ron
 
Would you ever consider the Southeast? Not a lot of love for southerners on this website, but probably due to super thick woods which limits long range shooting.

I've been all over the US, and for me I can never leave the SE. With a northern retirement you would be living like a king. Taxes are lower, people are friendly, and you can live in a farming town but still be 30 mins away from a retail outlet. Its got a nice balance.

Also, tons of public land to hunt, but the majority of hunting is through friends who own big farms. If you're a new guy (especially a Yankee) in town who strikes up a conversation about guns, you'll be invited to hunt on private land in no time.

We have a ton of game too! Deer, bear, turkey, small game, tons of upland game, water fowl, and varmints! Just something to consider. And I had to brag about the SE, Georgia Specifically :)
 
Idaho has great access to OTC tags, with reasonable draw odds compared to other Western States. Boise is big enough to have what you need, but small enough that you might run into someone you know at random. There are places within 30-45 minutes that would be remote enough for your tastes, I would think. Access to good hunting country is a few hours away.

If you're comparing the drive between Montana and New England, versus Idaho and New England, it's almost no difference. Adding 3-4 hours to a multi day trip just isn't that big of a deal, in my mind.

All that said, Montana and Wyoming are great options too. Plus, you're less likely to take my moose tag. :D
 
Idaho has great access to OTC tags
Idaho was on my list.

If I'm going to make that kind of move, I want to be within a couple hours of mom. She's getting up there and I'm on duty for her "elder care" when that time comes.

I will be leaving California for Kansas or Missouri. Maybe Nebraska but it's just that much colder.
 
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