My dad gave me a Winchester 30-30 when I was eight years old, I hunted with it for a few years and rarely, if ever even saw a deer and when I did, couldn't hit the durn thing with those iron sights while shaking like a leaf. Of course in our deer camp all the men kept telling me you couldn't kill a deer with anything less than an .30-06 and a .300 mag was what a fella really needed, so when I was 12 I talked my dad into letting me trade the .30-30 for a .30-06, of course 220 grain bullets were what you needed, and after a few rounds through that thing I had a tremendous case of flinchitis. We went hunting with my cousins one time in Tennessee and I watched one of my cousins smoke a deer in his tracks with a .243. I asked him to let me shoot it that afternoon and I've never looked back. In the past 30 years I have taken over a hundred deer with a .243 and my first one took around 50 before I retired it. Just recently I've converted to a 22-250 for deer and like it even better, I guess I'm just a wimp when it comes to recoil, but that bullet goes within a half inch of where I want it.