Like I said above , had no idea the pay scale for guides worked like that.
Elk Guid Tip?
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The " logic" i used had a waiter/witness as an example of a system where the worker lives off tips. I did not know a guide lived the same way. Do now .
Crap 10% minimum for sure. Hell I have one guide I gave my rifle to after I killed out. Well worth it too in my book. And every year I come back he always has one picked out and saved for me lol. Get what ya pay for
I did 20% on an expensive elk hunt. The guide worked his butt off and I got a B&C Bull out of his hard work. I think 10% should be given even if you get skunked unless the guide is a total ***.
Don't forget the cook either, usually around $100-150. You live off of your stomach up there.
Don't forget the cook either, usually around $100-150. You live off of your stomach up there.
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Whatever you are comfortable with just make sure you hand it directly to the guide. Outfitters can be real creeps and are known to take as much as all of the money for themselves.
Southern 62
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That I always do. Even at a restaurant. I want to make sure they get the tip. I also like to do it privately.
This is just one factor in preparation for a Guided Hunt. To be honest, I didn't think about the cook and wrangler, or maybe some others involved. So y'all's input has been helpful. Thanks
Varmint Hunter
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The entire notion of tipping, or the obligation to tip, is really Helter-Skelter in this country. Guides, waiters, barbers and everyone else who routinely get "tips" should be paid properly for their services. Tipping should not be expected by anyone and a small tip would denote exceptional service.
Why does a guide typically get 10%, a waiter typically gets 20%, while others get a fixed amount. No one tips a bartender based on the cost of cocktails, he gets a few bucks per drink, if you're so inclined.
I've lived in the same house for 40 yrs. I get curbside garbage pick-up. Three times a week all of my garbage and recycling is picked up before I get out of bed. Do the men do an exceptional job that deserves a tip? I don't know, but about 10 yrs ago I found out that many of my neighbors tip the guys. So for the last 10yrs, I give the 3-man crew $100 every Christmas. It makes absolutely no sense to me and maybe I should be tipping other service providers that I haven't thought about. I just try to do the right thing but like I said, "Tipping in this country is Helter-Skelter.
Why does a guide typically get 10%, a waiter typically gets 20%, while others get a fixed amount. No one tips a bartender based on the cost of cocktails, he gets a few bucks per drink, if you're so inclined.
I've lived in the same house for 40 yrs. I get curbside garbage pick-up. Three times a week all of my garbage and recycling is picked up before I get out of bed. Do the men do an exceptional job that deserves a tip? I don't know, but about 10 yrs ago I found out that many of my neighbors tip the guys. So for the last 10yrs, I give the 3-man crew $100 every Christmas. It makes absolutely no sense to me and maybe I should be tipping other service providers that I haven't thought about. I just try to do the right thing but like I said, "Tipping in this country is Helter-Skelter.
I agree for the most part. The only thing I see is that tipping FORCES someone like a guide or waiter into providing exceptional service . If you live by how well you treat your clients , you have the incentive to try harder . Its similar I guess , to any job. The difference is , you get fired if you don't do your job well in other lines of work. Someone forced to live off tips is getting their jobs rated with every client they face .
I think , like varmint hunter, you should get paid up front . A tip shouldn't be customary, it should be a gift of appreciation. What it is is a misrepresentation of charges for service or food . All the prices should reflect the gratuity up front .that way everyone knows what is expected to pay. Its just a way for an outfitter or restaurant to misrepresent their prices and force an employee to work hard for 2 people , the owner and the client, and get away with low-balling an employees wages. Am I wrong ? Not hating, just thinking it out.
Varmint Hunter
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And what about taxation? If tips are really wages for some industries; how much is actually declared? My former sister-in-law was a waitress in NYC. She worked in the Wall Street area and only worked during the lunch hour. She often bragged at what exorbitant tips she received from well-paid businessmen. When I asked if she reported all the big tips she responded with; "don't be ridiculous". The whole system is messed up when "gratuities" are actually "wages" that are paid by someone other than the employer.
Either way, I just go with the flow. In my limited amount of time on this earth, I'm not about to change much. LOL
Either way, I just go with the flow. In my limited amount of time on this earth, I'm not about to change much. LOL
