I love it when you shoot an animal, and it is DRT. I've shot elk to 340 yards, deer, aoudad, and javelina, and none of them made it more than 10 feet (except the sheep, which rolled 100 ft. downhill). Plus, the Bergers are 2/3 the price and have considerably higher b.c. (.550 vs .615 in 168 gr. 7mm). Not to mention I've gotten noticeably better accuracy out of the Bergers. I used Barnes for years, and still do occasionally, but Bergers work. I don't think I'd try to break an elk shoulder with one though.