mtnwrunner
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I 'spect there are alot of old bearded guys on this site.................
Randy (one of the old bearded dudes)
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I 'spect there are alot of old bearded guys on this site.................
Randy (one of the old bearded dudes)
You mean advantages, like caves that go deep into the side of extremely steep Mtn sides ?
Staying off of cell phone or electrical devices in general .
The goat herders used only trust worthy people to deliver communication .
Thats what we will have to do! No devices no trace..
ICANHITHIMMAN
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I, Jonathan Morehouse do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
This oath is life long, read the words know the words and understand the words. Learn the meaning of an unlawful order and that you do not have to fallow it. The US military in large will not go to war against their brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers. However it is your job to educate them! They will get their courage from us.
Oath Keepers » Oath Keepers – Guardians of the Republic
I, Jonathan Morehouse do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
This oath is life long, read the words know the words and understand the words. Learn the meaning of an unlawful order and that you do not have to fallow it. The US military in large will not go to war against their brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers. However it is your job to educate them! They will get their courage from us.
Well, those goat herders are fighting a force from the other side of the world. Patriots will be fighting U.S. citizens. Goat herders are fighting a force that doesn't have the full support of it's own country. Patriots can expect at least the same. Goat herders are surrounded by neighboring countries that are supportive to their cause. They funnel them arms, ammo and insurgent fighters. Goat herders have the support of a super power. Patriots are surrounded by U.N. members. Canada is cool but they won't get involved and Mexico and all of South America is not friendly to a conservative America. Goat herders fight a force that is supplied from across the world. Patriots fight a force that procures supplies from it's own back yard and depletes the Patriots supplies. The oppressors are forming a national military force, have wiped out the ammo supply, are being delivered armored vehicles, and have snitches everywhere. They also have a plan and the force of the world on their side.
I'm not saying Patriots don't have right on their side but it's not the same deal. Your gonna need a helava lot more than attitude.
tinman13kup
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The supply thing would be the problem. The US is a big place, especially when compared to the countries of the middle east.
The there's the other major issue. Over there, all goat herders are sporting AK's, which are readily obtainable and ammo is there as well. Can you imagine what would happen here? "I need 6.5!!", "Where's all the 338? No, not RUM,...no, not that either". Diversity in calibers create issues with supply.
The there's the other major issue. Over there, all goat herders are sporting AK's, which are readily obtainable and ammo is there as well. Can you imagine what would happen here? "I need 6.5!!", "Where's all the 338? No, not RUM,...no, not that either". Diversity in calibers create issues with supply.
Joe King
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hence the run on blammo
Thus, all the hoarding of reloading supplies.
Ross E Mariano
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Agree with bigbuck on this one. The reason the Administration is backdooring to U.N. gun control is that the U.N. will not get involved unless we are disarmed. All the other nations know we Americans have guns and the world already knows what an angry American can do when armed. I feel the reason They are arming and training DoHS and TSA is they are starting to realize they can't count on the Military to do their bidding and from what I've read, they won't be able to rely on all of Law Enforcement either. Problem they'll run into is a lot of those they'll try to disarm have military experience and already have put their lives on the line to protect what they are trying to take away. I don't think the same could be said for those doing the Administration's bidding nor will they have the same resolve. Grace under fire can tilt the scales heavily. History is very close to repeating itself in our Country, better me than my Grandsons.
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I really appreciate the time and effort in sharing your opinion and the many facts and realities you have presented, I feel compelled to inform all who know me, I have been pondering this for a while now.. Keep it up... We got your back...
rinodods
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Reading stuff like this really gets me. I've grown up with firearms all my life. I was probably reloading by the age of 16. Took my first deer at 12. Raised in a rural setting in a devoutly Christian family. Now I see all this crap going on.
I served 4 years in the Army with one year in Iraq. I never knew how I would react if the time came to really mix it up. The chances weren't good I mean I was a communications guy. I don't mind honestly admitting that I feared every day that today might be the day I might be required to take a life. Didn't like living that way and I left. I wasn't gonna be the guy that hung for a split second and got somebody hurt. I thought at the time that maybe that made me a bad soldier or a bad person feeling that conflicted. I realize now that really isn't the case. Everyone has that inner limit and I was finding mine. To this day I serve this country as a defense contractor still doing my little part to make us safer. I may have stunk as the movie poster soldier but I still take that oath to heart.
Somehow in the current climate I get those hairs standing up on the back of my neck again. I got used to being mortared pretty much everyday and really was never that upset with it. It was expected. (On a lighter note I swear they do actually whistle when they go over.) What is happening here isn't something that I expected. It isn't happening half way across the world on someone else's land. It's here. It's at my backdoor.
Some of you don't have a background similar to mine but I'd bank that quite a few do. It is getting serious in a lot of ways. Just take a look at Colorado in the past month. We have a senate who openly says they know the voters don't want any more gun control and passes it anyway. ([ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEfH5bVYCLM]Sen. John Morse on The Rachel Maddow Show - YouTube[/ame]) You gotta wonder how far this stuff will go. I really hope with all the vets around and the experience out there no one gets stupid but it is indeed a sad time. A lot of questions are going to get answered in the next few years. I just pray common sense and logic eventually prevail but I fear there is chance that won't be the case. Time to think deep guys.
I served 4 years in the Army with one year in Iraq. I never knew how I would react if the time came to really mix it up. The chances weren't good I mean I was a communications guy. I don't mind honestly admitting that I feared every day that today might be the day I might be required to take a life. Didn't like living that way and I left. I wasn't gonna be the guy that hung for a split second and got somebody hurt. I thought at the time that maybe that made me a bad soldier or a bad person feeling that conflicted. I realize now that really isn't the case. Everyone has that inner limit and I was finding mine. To this day I serve this country as a defense contractor still doing my little part to make us safer. I may have stunk as the movie poster soldier but I still take that oath to heart.
Somehow in the current climate I get those hairs standing up on the back of my neck again. I got used to being mortared pretty much everyday and really was never that upset with it. It was expected. (On a lighter note I swear they do actually whistle when they go over.) What is happening here isn't something that I expected. It isn't happening half way across the world on someone else's land. It's here. It's at my backdoor.
Some of you don't have a background similar to mine but I'd bank that quite a few do. It is getting serious in a lot of ways. Just take a look at Colorado in the past month. We have a senate who openly says they know the voters don't want any more gun control and passes it anyway. ([ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEfH5bVYCLM]Sen. John Morse on The Rachel Maddow Show - YouTube[/ame]) You gotta wonder how far this stuff will go. I really hope with all the vets around and the experience out there no one gets stupid but it is indeed a sad time. A lot of questions are going to get answered in the next few years. I just pray common sense and logic eventually prevail but I fear there is chance that won't be the case. Time to think deep guys.
Colorado is well on it's way to looking like New York State. If they get away with it, it will so spread like a cancer through the surrounding states. New Hamphire used to be the "Live Free Or Die State". Now they are just another crap socialist state, what a pity. Maine and Vermont are lost causes as well. Don't let this happen to you! If you think you won't be effected, watch out for your big cities, it's where the cancer starts. Your vote, voice, and the NRA will likely be the only weapons you will ever get to use. Use them well. We in the Northeast failed at this. The gun owners were complacent! There are large numbers that could have stopped the ridiculous laws, but most stuck there head in the sand. Keep in mind only 4% of gun owners nation wide belong to the NRA.
ICANHITHIMMAN
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If civil war was to brake out in America, weapons and ammo would flow to use from every country we have ever wronged! They all want to see us fail and will do nothing short of supporting us killing each other. There are 21.5 million vets in the US and I'm betting 10 times that number or patriots who will not stand for any of this when push comes to shove.
TheNiner
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Nothing will come of this. It just isn't feasible. Pelosi, Bloomberg and any cracked out politician that wants to disarm Americans will find nobody to do their bidding. Being l.e. I can tell ya we've debated about this heavily. None of us (midwest-you know we love our guns) would be forced to enforce an unconstitutional law. About half of us 800,000 uniformed officers in this nation are former military as well. So don't throw around the term government and lump us officers that uphold the law in that mix. I also have a hard time believing our own military would follow these orders.
It is an impossible war.
So that leaves an outside entity to do their bidding. Good luck with that.
Let's just be clear of who is the problem here. I am seeing a lot of blurring of the lines between paranoids and true Americans and people straight threatening law enforcement officers as if we are the enemy. Claiming we are militarizing our force for gun grabbing. Our equipment (armor, rifles, bearcat vehicles are entirely reactive to needs and threats to us and innocents). There is zero chance any local, county or state agency would be involved in this nonsense. If you read about a police department chief, sheriff or similar...remember they are appointed and elected and only worry about their own livelihood. You want a real answer? Ask a cop off duty and not jamming a camera in their face at their station to put on YouTube. Policy does not allow for a lot of opinion on things.
Rest assured I and my brother and sister officers who believe in our nation and our profession would toss that badge and gun back at anyone who orders us to go against the constitution.
It is an impossible war.
So that leaves an outside entity to do their bidding. Good luck with that.
Let's just be clear of who is the problem here. I am seeing a lot of blurring of the lines between paranoids and true Americans and people straight threatening law enforcement officers as if we are the enemy. Claiming we are militarizing our force for gun grabbing. Our equipment (armor, rifles, bearcat vehicles are entirely reactive to needs and threats to us and innocents). There is zero chance any local, county or state agency would be involved in this nonsense. If you read about a police department chief, sheriff or similar...remember they are appointed and elected and only worry about their own livelihood. You want a real answer? Ask a cop off duty and not jamming a camera in their face at their station to put on YouTube. Policy does not allow for a lot of opinion on things.
Rest assured I and my brother and sister officers who believe in our nation and our profession would toss that badge and gun back at anyone who orders us to go against the constitution.
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