Do all rifle???

300 WSM or 7mm SAUM

The big banger magnums are cool and all but a 300 WSM is a great cartridge. I had one, took one muley with it. It threw 180gr Accubonds at 2950 and was easily Sub MOA. That said I sold it to go with a short action 7mm. I like the efficiency of the 7mm SAUM package and it easily brings enough HP to the party to bring down a bull at sub 600 yds.
 
To be perfect for elk, especially at long range, it would be overkill for smaller stuff. That's why we have to have different rifles for different senarios, right? But, like they say, "Overkill is underrated!" For me, the big 338's - Rum, Edge, Lapua - are the cat's pajamas for elk. All will launch the 225g Barnes TTSX @ 3,250 FPS to 3,400 FPS + depending on configuration. Flat shooting and powerful. I gave up on the 338 WM and 340 Wby as I couldn't achieve the desired velocity and penetration. The 338-378 has a little too much recoil for little gain. I wouldn't want to shoot an antelope or whitetail with one! I like lung/heart shots and complete penetration rather than high-shoulder shots. Don't like to hit bone, but if I need to there's no doubt penetration is still there.
 
I want to add 270 WSM to all those who suggested 270 Winchester. It can do everything the 270 Win can do and do it better. Just add a Limbsaver Recoil pad and most folks would not even feel the increased power in terms of uncomfortable recoil. Also, from my experience, it does seem like MV of 3,080 has a lot more hydrostatic (temporary wound cavity) effect on beasties than a bullet starting off at 2690. Ya'll correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen a bullet becomes a lot more deadly once you push it above 3,000 fps, so that it still has a lot of lightning left in it by the time it impacts the critter. Not wanting to restart the old Roy Weatherby/Elmer Kieth debate because I think that if you shoot smaller caliber bullets--velocity does increase its effectiveness. But if you shoot large caliber heavy bullets, Elmer Kieth wasn't wrong either. It works both ways, it is just two different ways of killing. And for ranges beyond 400 hundred on big critters, it doesn't hurt to have both working for you. (I'm talking terminal performance)
 
270 Winchester short magnum might be perfect for me where I live in the South. But the farther North you go the more that 270 grain bullet moving over 3000 fps becomes what you really want for your do all rifle. For elk moose and grizzly bear that 338 caliber bullet fits the bill a whole lot better. Of course that means you have to deal with whatever added weight there is in your platform. And I still prefer 22 long rifle for squirrels in South Arkansas. But you won't catch me taking my squirrel rifle on a bear hunt.
 
Jon Bischof said:
270 Winchester short magnum might be perfect for me where I live in the South. But the farther North you go the more that 270 grain bullet moving over 3000 fps becomes what you really want for your do all rifle. For elk moose and grizzly bear that 338 caliber bullet fits the bill a whole lot better. Of course that means you have to deal with whatever added weight there is in your platform. And I still prefer 22 long rifle for squirrels in South Arkansas. But you won't catch me taking my squirrel rifle on a bear hunt.
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You can hunt bear with a stick, it just ain't advisable!
 
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