You would be surprised at the lethality and range you can kill at, once you learn the trajectory of it. Nice old gun and cartridge.So cool, we seem to get all rapped up in modern rifles , optics ,and high B.C. bullets, I've got my great grandfather's model 1886 45-90. thinking next fall I'll wait for the late white tail season and head into a thicket, hunker down and wait for a buck.( back to basics ) Short Range Hunter !