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Convert 7mm RUM to??
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I have only shot out 1 barrel, 220 Swift and used it for 10 years on yotes and fox, about 80 rounds a year and loaded for light speed thats pretty good rate of return. I have some other supposed barrel burners and they have made it through decades of hunting. In Texas you can only take 7 deer a year, thats 7 rounds down the pipe if you use the same rifle and thats no fun. I agree the regular man has nothing to fear over barrel life!I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard the barrel life is short . Hmmm
Do you know anybody that shoots and hunts normal that ever shot out a barrel??
Lots of things in Life to worry about besides barrel Life !
Just do as stated above ! Shoot and injoy it ! Then after 1000 plus rounds or so rebarrel to the 300 Rum or if your ready to shoot some 300 gr. Bullets try the 338 Rum or the 338 Edge ! All three are my favorite!!
Rum Man
First thing Id do is have someone scope the bore. Determine what you have and what its value might be. If its been shot a lot or gotten hot and is heat cracked you need a barrel. If its in good shape keep it. Unless you are going to learn to load, anything you get that isn't a 308 or 30:06 is going to be expensive and hard to come by. The 7rum is not a 458 lott or 338rum. They are fine and fun to shoot. Ive shot a lot of tonnage and I never heard or felt any shot fired in anger.
sounds to me like you have a two gun problem.
Ive read the replies. Those ppl telling you that ammo will be $3-$5 a round are right. If you want a gun to shoot get a 308. You want a gun to hunt with you have that in the 7rum.
"If". I loaned a new 300rum Christensen to a friend in August 2019. He shot 40 rounds thru it and burned the barrel to junk. Seen to many movies. So burning a barrel happens far more often than ppl think. Particularly with RUMs and other over-bored rounds. Unless one has a bore scope or shoots long distance needing sub Moa performance, most ppl have no idea their barrels are cooked.
Been looking for 300RUM and 7rum and can't find any Been looking for a couple of months now still don't have any no one has it in stock
Technologist
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You'll enjoy that barrel a lot longer if you leave it in the gun.
Getting harder to find.
Shane Lindsey
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Well, we are now splitting hairs. The cost per round will absolutely go down if you reload. The quality and performance of hand loaded ammo will go up. However, Shane is right in that the total annual $$ you spend on shooting may well go up if you shoot more. But thats a choice within your control.
Here's a cost most don't factor. Will use 338AM as example. Had a beautiful Allen 338AM with 32" Proof Carbon Barrel. $1200 barrel plus chambering $500ish. Kirby estimated Barrel life @ 1000 rounds. $1.70 per shot. I knew going in it was a hunting rifle, not a weekend or comp shooter. Every time you pull the trigger on your rifle it's costing you the round plus the incremental barrel wear. Barrels are consumables! Is why I try to talk customers off Carbon barrels for everything but hunting rifles. Is why I try to talk ppl into rounds that will go 2000-4000 rounds in a barrel. Big mags are fun to shoot and best for hunting IMO, but if you plan to shoot a lot they are simply not practical. (Unless you build rifles)
Is why I contend the gentleman who started this thread has a two gun problem, one to shoot a lot and one to shoot a little.
Here's a cost most don't factor. Will use 338AM as example. Had a beautiful Allen 338AM with 32" Proof Carbon Barrel. $1200 barrel plus chambering $500ish. Kirby estimated Barrel life @ 1000 rounds. $1.70 per shot. I knew going in it was a hunting rifle, not a weekend or comp shooter. Every time you pull the trigger on your rifle it's costing you the round plus the incremental barrel wear. Barrels are consumables! Is why I try to talk customers off Carbon barrels for everything but hunting rifles. Is why I try to talk ppl into rounds that will go 2000-4000 rounds in a barrel. Big mags are fun to shoot and best for hunting IMO, but if you plan to shoot a lot they are simply not practical. (Unless you build rifles)
Is why I contend the gentleman who started this thread has a two gun problem, one to shoot a lot and one to shoot a little.
NielsC
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I agree that I have never seen hunting rifles with barrels shot out. I have seen bench rest rifles and varmit rifles damaged. Personally I think it is more shooting max loads and rate of fire versus the number of rounds. I don't think it is a problem. Primers are the problem, lack of.I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard the barrel life is short . Hmmm
Do you know anybody that shoots and hunts normal that ever shot out a barrel??
Lots of things in Life to worry about besides barrel Life !
Just do as stated above ! Shoot and injoy it ! Then after 1000 plus rounds or so rebarrel to the 300 Rum or if your ready to shoot some 300 gr. Bullets try the 338 Rum or the 338 Edge ! All three are my favorite!!
Rum Man
freddiej
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Brando 32, I see you are in Michigan, this means your hunting might be a bit close in for that long range beast. that is if you do not load it down.
my suggestion is multi-pronged.
shoot it for a while but down load it. work up to long range hunting speeds and weights. put a brake on it. you will enjoy it if the stock fits you. you will know immediately if the stock is too short. if too short have a gunsmith put a thicker butt pad and spacers on it.
now comes the big questions: what are your goals? Elk out west? Moose up north? Deer out west? deer in the brushlands? deer in the midwest? If you want an all around gun I might just keep that 7MM RUM and put a fast twist barrel on it so you can shoot the heavy slugs. then tailor rounds for where you hunt. high brush, load down a bit. run high energy heavy slugs for western hunts where you have long shots. I will give the devil his due, you have a case/round you can tailor rounds to where you hunt. after that; you have to make that beast comfortable to shoot, a muzzle brake, a proper length stock, good glass, a proper twist for the heaviest slugs you will shoot, set the level of potency for the game and the lengths of the shot you believe you will be taking. you have a versatile case/round.. use it to your advantage.
I have a 300 RUM I took in on trade as well. I already have a really good 300 Win Mag, actually two of them that shoot long distances well enough to not need the RUM. I am selling it to finance my 270-264 Win Mag build.
I hope this helped you.
my suggestion is multi-pronged.
shoot it for a while but down load it. work up to long range hunting speeds and weights. put a brake on it. you will enjoy it if the stock fits you. you will know immediately if the stock is too short. if too short have a gunsmith put a thicker butt pad and spacers on it.
now comes the big questions: what are your goals? Elk out west? Moose up north? Deer out west? deer in the brushlands? deer in the midwest? If you want an all around gun I might just keep that 7MM RUM and put a fast twist barrel on it so you can shoot the heavy slugs. then tailor rounds for where you hunt. high brush, load down a bit. run high energy heavy slugs for western hunts where you have long shots. I will give the devil his due, you have a case/round you can tailor rounds to where you hunt. after that; you have to make that beast comfortable to shoot, a muzzle brake, a proper length stock, good glass, a proper twist for the heaviest slugs you will shoot, set the level of potency for the game and the lengths of the shot you believe you will be taking. you have a versatile case/round.. use it to your advantage.
I have a 300 RUM I took in on trade as well. I already have a really good 300 Win Mag, actually two of them that shoot long distances well enough to not need the RUM. I am selling it to finance my 270-264 Win Mag build.
I hope this helped you.
freddiej
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NeilsC and RUM Man.
REALLY!?! Neither of you has ever seen a hunting rifle with a shot out barrel? I have. north of 26 of them in my 30 years of being in the firerams business. First as a salesman, then as a gunsmith. the most big game hunting rounds were 7MM R/M's and 264 Win Mags due to their popularity of the time. Next comes the more conventional/popular: 30-06's, 270 Win's, 25-06's. However: Varminters and predator rifles/calibers take the prize for most shot out barrels. 22-250 AI, 22 midstead, 17 rem, 223 WSSM and 220 Swifts.
FYI, 300 - 400 rounds of 223 WSSM will erode a throat severely. personal experience talkin here. I owned two 223 WSSM's, My Winchester 70 was my primary. the throat erosion was over 1/8" in 400 rounds. I did have a lot of fun shooting ground squirrels, marmints, jacks, coyotes, western cousins of chip and dale.
