Cartridges That Need to be Revamped or Revived

I have a friend that has a Remington 742 chambered in 6mm Rem that has taken a lot of Deer over the years. Even out of a 742, which is not known for extreme accuracy it groups at an inch, which is very good for a hunting rifle.
Or known to reliably go "bang!". Love the look of those carbines though. I have a 760 and can't wait for the 7600's to come back (they are listed on Midway USA) but it looks like they are going to be pricey. It's going to be interesting to see what they choose to chamber in for the platform….maybe we see a 6mm renaissance?
 
The new Remarms is addressing Big Greens self destruction. They are using aftermarket triggers, better barrel steel, pre-fit barrel/action tolerances, faster twist rates, a cerakote type finish and a few more I missed here. The "Alpha series".
They are not interested in cellar dweller pricing so they will be a mid market pricing but far better at giving what the public wants.
I hope these are well received.
 
The new Remarms is addressing Big Greens self destruction. They are using aftermarket triggers, better barrel steel, pre-fit barrel/action tolerances, faster twist rates, a cerakote type finish and a few more I missed here. The "Alpha series".
They are not interested in cellar dweller pricing so they will be a mid market pricing but far better at giving what the public wants.
I hope these are well received.
This is what has been needed. When I was on Midway the 7600's were listed around 1200 but no mention of specs….I didn't know if the prices were a reflection of start up costs/tooling or improvements to the model. Sounds like a little of both which I am more than OK with. Can't wait to see what cartridges and barrel lengths are offered and if they offer laminate stocks.
 
Or known to reliably go "bang!". Love the look of those carbines though. I have a 760 and can't wait for the 7600's to come back (they are listed on Midway USA) but it looks like they are going to be pricey. It's going to be interesting to see what they choose to chamber in for the platform….maybe we see a 6mm renaissance?
We still have my dad's first year of manufacturing 760. Ridiculously accurate pump rifle in .30-06. That thing has killed hundreds of deer and hogs and is every bit the rifle today it was when it was new.

The problem with the 06 is that it was nearly perfect right off the drawing board so there's very little that can be done to improve or modernize it.
 
We still have my dad's first year of manufacturing 760. Ridiculously accurate pump rifle in .30-06. That thing has killed hundreds of deer and hogs and is every bit the rifle today it was when it was new.

The problem with the 06 is that it was nearly perfect right off the drawing board so there's very little that can be done to improve or modernize it.
The 760's and 7600's are both excellent. The 742 I have heard had some reliability issues. Plus they are just aesthetically pleasing guns. I would have much rather seen Savage bring a pump rifle to market or bring back a modern lever than a straight pull bolt or even just improve the rough cycling with the new 110's. Richard Mann did a best rifles of 2022 and the Magpul 110 was on there with the pro of being accurate and the con of….you guess it, roughly cycling (read not chambering rounds quickly or efficiently). Begs the question. Why build a brand new bolt rifle meant for quick action when you can't figure out how to fix those same issues on a gun you've been making forever?
 
I have always wanted a .338 Federal or a .358 Win. My Midwest deer rifle is a Mod 7 in .308 - thought many times of rebarreling it to .338 but never did because:
1. I leave it with my daughter in MN (flying without a rifle is so much easier)
2. I have never thought the .308 Win to be lacking when it comes to deer shot from 10-125 yards.
 
I have always wanted a .338 Federal or a .358 Win. My Midwest deer rifle is a Mod 7 in .308 - thought many times of rebarreling it to .338 but never did because:
1. I leave it with my daughter in MN (flying without a rifle is so much easier)
2. I have never thought the .308 Win to be lacking when it comes to deer shot from 10-125 yards.
Thick woods reality…our shots are so close that a 308 with 150 grains is really more than adequate. Last deer I got was maybe 35-40 yards and the 308 150 grain Core-Lokt went double lung and exited. The deer weighed 185 dressed so definitely not small. He may have gone 10 steps before piling up.
 
I have always wanted a .338 Federal or a .358 Win. My Midwest deer rifle is a Mod 7 in .308 - thought many times of rebarreling it to .338 but never did because:
1. I leave it with my daughter in MN (flying without a rifle is so much easier)
2. I have never thought the .308 Win to be lacking when it comes to deer shot from 10-125 yards.
The 338 Marlin is another winner in the relatively mild recoiling 338 arena. It was designed specifically for the Marlin lever actions with the idea in mind of matching as closely as possible 30-06 ballistics out to four or five hundred yards.

Awfully handy too in a lever gun for those hunting at relatively short ranges in brush or dense forests.
 
The 760's and 7600's are both excellent. The 742 I have heard had some reliability issues. Plus they are just aesthetically pleasing guns. I would have much rather seen Savage bring a pump rifle to market or bring back a modern lever than a straight pull bolt or even just improve the rough cycling with the new 110's. Richard Mann did a best rifles of 2022 and the Magpul 110 was on there with the pro of being accurate and the con of….you guess it, roughly cycling (read not chambering rounds quickly or efficiently). Begs the question. Why build a brand new bolt rifle meant for quick action when you can't figure out how to fix those same issues on a gun you've been making forever?
We had a 742 in .243 that was a wonderful rifle until one day the bolt track went south and the bolt ended up at a really bad angle in a horrible bind. It was a 72-74 era model and the gun smith said they'd gotten really cheap in their stampings of the receivers for a few years and that was happening to a lot of them.

It wasn't worth repairing so it got up and tossed into the scrap bin. That was about 1984 and it had a whole lot of mileage on it by then so we got our moey's worth out of it but I've been a bit gun shy of buying another since.
 
Or known to reliably go "bang!". Love the look of those carbines though. I have a 760 and can't wait for the 7600's to come back (they are listed on Midway USA) but it looks like they are going to be pricey. It's going to be interesting to see what they choose to chamber in for the platform….maybe we see a 6mm renaissance?
It is interesting that as inaccurate as the normal 742 was, the 760 was a tack driver. A friend of mine inherited a 760 in .270 from a good friend. When he got it, it showed years of wear on the outside. When we went out to shoot it just to see what it would do we were amazed that it shot less that 1 MOA with a beezlebob (el cheapo) scope on it. With a shooter like that he refurbished it, had it re blued in a high gloss finish and refinished the stock to better than factory new and put a Vortex 4 x 16 x 44 scope on it. It is a sub MOA , 0.70 shooter with Federal Premium 130 gr Nosler Partitions and similar. Many a magnificent bucks have fell prey both before and after the the refurbishment.
 
It is interesting that as inaccurate as the normal 742 was, the 760 was a tack driver. A friend of mine inherited a 760 in .270 from a good friend. When he got it, it showed years of wear on the outside. When we went out to shoot it just to see what it would do we were amazed that it shot less that 1 MOA with a beezlebob (el cheapo) scope on it. With a shooter like that he refurbished it, had it re blued in a high gloss finish and refinished the stock to better than factory new and put a Vortex 4 x 16 x 44 scope on it. It is a sub MOA , 0.70 shooter with Federal Premium 130 gr Nosler Partitions and similar. Many a magnificent bucks have fell prey both before and after the the refurbishment.
Completely different operating systems. The 742 was a DI semi auto and the lugs had a tendency not to lock up all the way before the next shot was fired especially when rapid firing.

That at the rails quickly going south made them less than a reliable choice for guys who shot a lot and didn't keep their guns immaculately well cleaned.
 
Completely different operating systems. The 742 was a DI semi auto and the lugs had a tendency not to lock up all the way before the next shot was fired especially when rapid firing.

That at the rails quickly going south made them less than a reliable choice for guys who shot a lot and didn't keep their guns immaculately well cleaned.
I have owned any number of 742 and 7400's over the years, none of which no matter how much you tinkered would not shoot under 2 MOA. Most were closer to 3 MOA. To me rapid fire would be 10 rounds accurately fired in 50 to 70 seconds, not the normal firing you hear at your local gun club which is doing nothing but turning gunpowder into noise and hoping that all of the bullets hit the backstop. The 742/7400's were semi automatic firearms, not machine guns.
 
I have owned any number of 742 and 7400's over the years, none of which no matter how much you tinkered would not shoot under 2 MOA. Most were closer to 3 MOA. To me rapid fire would be 10 rounds accurately fired in 50 to 70 seconds, not the normal firing you hear at your local gun club which is doing nothing but turning gunpowder into noise and hoping that all of the bullets hit the backstop. The 742/7400's were semi automatic firearms, not machine guns.
The rate of fire is dicretcly proportional to how fast you pull the trigger no matter how many rounds you are firing.

The design did not allow for a proper lockup of the bolt with rapid follow ups so they were notoriously inaccurate in that application.
 
I found them to be notoriously inaccurate no mater what the cyclic rate of fire was. I had several and none of them shot well in any caliber or with any ammo. Then again I am quite picky and if it won't shoot at least MOA I would not consider taking it hunting and would send it down the road.
 
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