Cartridges That Need to be Revamped or Revived

[Josh06]

There is always chatter on the boards about cartridges that are dying and don't deserve to or ones that aren't being used to their full potential, lots of activity discussing that old fogey 270 Winchester recently thanks to the sexy new 6.8 Western. I figured we should start a thread where we can talk about the issue and maybe some of the handloaders here can do some tinkering to give these dead or dying cartridges a new lease on life. What are some of the cartridges out there that you all think have potential and should be much more popular and prevalent than they are today? What is holding these cartridges back and how do we fix the issues? Here are a few I think could use a little love and attention:

1) 350 Remington Magnum
2) 8mm Remington Magnum
3) 284 Winchester
4) 6.5x55 SE
5) 6.5-06 A- Square
6) 338 Federal

I just put together a 6.5-06 with an 8 twist barrel. Haven't shot it yet. My son will be using it for deer/pigs.

 

[irelynd1]

There is always chatter on the boards about cartridges that are dying and don't deserve to or ones that aren't being used to their full potential, lots of activity discussing that old fogey 270 Winchester recently thanks to the sexy new 6.8 Western. I figured we should start a thread where we can talk about the issue and maybe some of the handloaders here can do some tinkering to give these dead or dying cartridges a new lease on life. What are some of the cartridges out there that you all think have potential and should be much more popular and prevalent than they are today? What is holding these cartridges back and how do we fix the issues? Here are a few I think could use a little love and attention:

1) 350 Remington Magnum
2) 8mm Remington Magnum
3) 284 Winchester
4) 6.5x55 SE
5) 6.5-06 A- Square
6) 338 Federal

I would add 308 Norma Magnum. Very difficult to find any brass let alone factory ammo. I was able to buy some factory new brass but very expensive.

 

[del2les]

Personally, I would like to see the 222rem, 6mmRem (or30*AI), 357 RemMax, and the 338/06 do better and be more available in brass, ammo and firearms.

 

[vedauvoo]

Just curious, and forgive me if this has already been addresssd on this forum.

With the phenomenal success of the 280 AI, does the 270 AI have the same kind of potential?

Or is the difference minimal because the SAAMI pressure limits for the 270 is higher than the 280?

 

[jbronner13]

Personally, I would like to see the 222rem, 6mmRem (or30*AI), 357 RemMax, and the 338/06 do better and be more available in brass, ammo and firearms.

Don't see much love for the triple deuce!

 

[Jtgraham01]

Just curious, and forgive me if this has already been addresssd on this forum.

With the phenomenal success of the 280 AI, does the 270 AI have the same kind of potential?

Or is the difference minimal because the SAAMI pressure limits for the 270 is higher than the 280?

I think it's possible, but hard for a person to say that bullet selection for .277 is equal to .284. Just so many good projectiles. I realize that Berger has done some stuff for .277, but that leaves you with a small range of options.

 

[jbronner13]

I think it's possible, but hard for a person to say that bullet selection for .277 is equal to .284. Just so many good projectiles. I realize that Berger has done some stuff for .277, but that leaves you with a small range of options.

It really feels as though the 270 has just been neglected for a long time in terms of projectiles…..130-150 was all you were ever going to get. 7mm just a world of options up and down the spectrum.

 

[vedauvoo]

Make sense. If I had the interest and means to do an AI in either .277-.284, no reason to go .277 and be limited to 130-150 gr bullets.

Thanks

 

[sedancowboy]

Make sense. If I had the interest and means to do an AI in either .277-.284, no reason to go .277 and be limited to 130-150 gr bullets.

Thanks

So Sierra list 9 .277 Bullets from 115-175 https://www.sierrabullets.com/product-category/rifle/?filter_diameter=0-277&query_type_diameter=or

Hornady lists 14 .277 bullets from 100-150 https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/#!/

Nosler lists 16 .277 bullets from 130-170 https://www.nosler.com/products/bullets.html?nl_caliber=334

Berger lists 6 .277 bullets from 130-170 https://bergerbullets.com/product-category/rifle-bullets/?caliber=270-caliber

With 45 bullets listed not including all the small and custom bullet manufactures I fail to see how we are limited in bullet selection when we have every thing from 100 gr varmint to 175 gr big game bullets. Build your 270s and go kill stuff!

 

[RidgeTop]

Gee, soup up the 6.5X55 any more and it will kill dead, dead.

 

[RidgeTop]

I put Nosler Partitions in my Winchester mod '94 30-30.

 

[jbronner13]

So Sierra list 9 .277 Bullets from 115-175 https://www.sierrabullets.com/product-category/rifle/?filter_diameter=0-277&query_type_diameter=or

Hornady lists 14 .277 bullets from 100-150 https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/#!/

Nosler lists 16 .277 bullets from 130-170 https://www.nosler.com/products/bullets.html?nl_caliber=334

Berger lists 6 .277 bullets from 130-170 https://bergerbullets.com/product-category/rifle-bullets/?caliber=270-caliber

With 45 bullets listed not including all the small and custom bullet manufactures I fail to see how we are limited in bullet selection when we have every thing from 100 gr varmint to 175 gr big game bullets. Build your 270s and go kill stuff!

If you are going to handload I think it makes perfect sense. The 280AI is great, manufacturers are starting to pump out some good factory ammo for it now as well. That being said…..I am going to go the 270 route with a faster twist and handload 160-170 grain ammo for it…..the cheapest ntrarian in me feels it necessary.

 

[jbronner13]

If you are going to handload I think it makes perfect sense. The 280AI is great, manufacturers are starting to pump out some good factory ammo for it now as well. That being said…..I am going to go the 270 route with a faster twist and handload 160-170 grain ammo for it…..the contrarian in me feels it necessary.

 

[adk hunter]

Love the .280AI but define "Pump out good factory ammo..."

I am doing my part with the .338 federal and the .284! If I had to do a 6.5 I should do the 6.5-284 but would almost certainly go 6.5-280AI. Just more better and I have more .280 brass to neck down.

Fun thread