In the past 3 seasons I have put in 3-4 that time and had a 4 buck 180 average, gross. With preditors high, big snow winter last, 20 days this Nov. 53 season and saw 5 bucks, woulnt let my kid shoot the biggest, totally pathetic, and I JUST STARTED hunting muley about 5 years ago. I was a whitey nut and elk.Some draw areas in MT are producing the 200" hard access w/ private and not refering to bearpaw, those deer dont seem to carry much mass typicallyCan't speak for Id and Wy, but 190 inch deer in MT are pretty few and far between, even in the exceptional hard to draw areas, I know several muley crazy guys that take up to 2 weeks a year and travel up to 7 hours to hunt and have yet to break 180.