AHHH Yes! But if you have the money get yourself a M-1Field Benelli 20ga (or similar-newer). Benelli's are awesome. I am old school; with a Remington 1100 mag 12ga with a 30" cut to put a Poly Choke on. Shot everything from dove, quail, woodcock, grouse, pheasant, duck, geese. You can get by with 2 3/4 high brass or 2 3/4 mag and it will cycle fine.Old thread....Simple find an older 870 Wingmaster. Save your old fixed choke barrel and throw a newer tube choke barrel on it if you want. They were still made start to finish by one person even into the early 90's. Then they went to crap after the express and production line guns started making more money. Grab every one you can find and is not crazy jacked up in price.