I'm trying the 180 hybrid on elk in two weeksI run a Berger 180 hybrid in mine, terminal performance has been stellar so far, though not not very many samples. Pass throughs on elk with big exits and liquid lungs. Broken shoulders, overall devastation.
It seems everyone is hyped on heavy for caliber bullets. I am not there yet. I just purchased some 143 hammers and WOW was I surprised at the accuracy right out the door. I will take accuracy over size and speed anytime. 3rd load produced a .430 group. The largest was .843. Right now my go to is 69 gr. of 7828 @3100+ fps. With the 143's.
What I like about something like a 180 is that I can start it off a little slower and have it stay in its optimal impact velocity window longer. It seems like the Bergers, ELD-M, and even ELD-X bullets fail more often from too-high impact velocity than from too-slow. I get great wind performance, don't worry about blowing up a 160 class bullet on a close in shoulder shot, and still get great expansion as far as I care to shoot an animal because a .349 G7 lets it hold that velocity for a long time. Bonus points for high sectional density that helps with good penetration. They don't shoot very flat, but I've never gotten a sudden gust of gravity. I get .5-.75 moa at 600 reasonably consistently, which is as far as I shoot groups on paper. Steel past that is consistent as well.It seems everyone is hyped on heavy for caliber bullets. I am not there yet. I just purchased some 143 hammers and WOW was I surprised at the accuracy right out the door. I will take accuracy over size and speed anytime. 3rd load produced a .430 group. The largest was .843. Right now my go to is 69 gr. of 7828 @3100+ fps. With the 143's.
I shoot a 1968 era rem 700, and I took my last Elk with a 175 gr. SGK. They are not as popular in this age of high bc, polymer tip, bonded bullets, but they workIs there no love for the sierra 175 spitzer boat tail game king?
It looks like I'm going to find out how the 190 hybrid Berger works this fall...
It depends on what you call "close-in", but I think a 140 mono of the right type could have enough velocity to expand to maybe 6 or 700 yards from a 7 mag. It's definitely not as long range capable as a heavy lead bullet, but still farther than 98% of most of our shots will ever be.I know I could start a 140 mono way faster and have great close-in performance, but they slow down quickly and need velocity for expansion.
I'm definitely open to hearing why my logic is flawed, if someone has an argument in favor of doing something different.
If you can find it, the Berger 175 elite. It's gold for any 7mm.
Good luck!!I'll by trying one of those on a bull elk this week, if I'm fortunate!
Awesome. 5 days and we will be in the hills chasing bulls and using 175's. I tried the 180's in the last couple weeks. They just don't shoot as well in my rifles. So going back to the ole trusty 175's. Love that bullet.Well I can say the Berger 175 EH works very well.
Snuck up to 140 yards on a bull, steep downhill shot. Velocity at impact was about 2570 fps.
One shot, he turned and went 5 yards and tipped over in 15 seconds. Done. Lungs and heart were shredded.
I'm a believer….
HMMMMMMM.......Pics????Well I can say the Berger 175 EH works very well.
Snuck up to 140 yards on a bull, steep downhill shot. Velocity at impact was about 2570 fps.
One shot, he turned and went 5 yards and tipped over in 15 seconds. Done. Lungs and heart were shredded.
I'm a believer….