Berger to introduce 7mm 195 gr EOL Hybrid Hunting Bullet

Len actually states a BC figure as well... Time will tell where it lands but I'm betting it will be between Len's figure and the .794 G1 that has already been stated

Why do you think the .755 stated by Len is not correct? Wouldn't that number have come from Berger's testing?
 
Why do you think the .755 stated by Len is not correct? Wouldn't that number have come from Berger's testing?
All of Berger's BC's are determined by Bryan Litz, who is a professional ballistician. I trust Bryan's initial testing will land us somewhere near the mark. The initially tested G1 BC was .794, and the initially tested G7 BC was .406. That info is straight out of an email Berger sent me in May of 2014.
 
MudRunner,

I appreciate your confidence in me, however I need to clarify.

The BC's we were talking about for this bullet prior to it being made were all estimates because the bullets weren't available for testing at that time.

Now that the bullets have been made, I've actually tested them for BC. The actual tested performance is:

G1 BC = 0.755 (Average from 3000 to 1500 fps)
G7 BC = 0.387 (Valid for all speeds)

This is like 5% lower than initially predicted but still very high. To put it in perspective, the form factor (drag) is as low or lower (splitting hairs) as any Berger Bullet, and the BC is 4% higher than the .30 cal 230 grain.

More info to come soon.

-Bryan
 
All of Berger's BC's are determined by Bryan Litz, who is a professional ballistician. I trust Bryan's initial testing will land us somewhere near the mark. The initially tested G1 BC was .794, and the initially tested G7 BC was .406. That info is straight out of an email Berger sent me in May of 2014.

I don't know what your email says but I did read the first post in this thread.

I am at the SCI show and am standing next to Bob Beck from EOL as I write this post. We just received the design from Bryan Litz for the new Berger 7mm 195 gr EOL Hybrid Hunting bullet.

It has an estimated averaged G1 BC of .794 and a G7 BC of .406. For those who understand such things this bullet has a G7 form factor of .850. For those who don't know what that means it means that this bullet is the slickest (in terms of velocity retention) on the planet.

Bryan has relayed that this bullet at an estimated 1.637" long will need at least a 1:8.5" twist to be stabilized. Rumors of this bullet (started by your's truly) started several people asking the question of what twist will be required. This is the reason for me starting this thread. So those who are interested in trying this bullet can start working on getting barrels. By the time you'd be able to get one we should have this bullet available.

Regards,
Eric
 
MudRunner,

I appreciate your confidence in me, however I need to clarify.

The BC's we were talking about for this bullet prior to it being made were all estimates because the bullets weren't available for testing at that time.

Now that the bullets have been made, I've actually tested them for BC. The actual tested performance is:

G1 BC = 0.755 (Average from 3000 to 1500 fps)
G7 BC = 0.387 (Valid for all speeds)

This is like 5% lower than initially predicted but still very high. To put it in perspective, the form factor (drag) is as low or lower (splitting hairs) as any Berger Bullet, and the BC is 4% higher than the .30 cal 230 grain.

More info to come soon.

-Bryan

Thanks for the correction Bryan. I took the initially posted BC's as you had tested some of the prototypes. But, good to now know the real-world BC's.

Thanks for the reply.
 
That's the original drawing. I've had that one saved in my laptop for a couple of years. The length of the actual bullet is slightly different from that drawing. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some other differences as well.
 
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