I take that back I did see this video on the 4.0. Yes this also has very good reductions. The Banish isn't off my radar yet either. I'm still looking around at options. I might not be ordering until spring so I have time to make a decision. And I know the wait time is 11 months or so but oh well. I'll either have one late 2020 or early 2021. Plus my local shop deals with silencershop so I'm going to see if they can order it in and I make payments after a down payment. If I can make payments over time or just do a down payment and payoff at pickup that would help out a lot. I'm going to talk to them tomorrow. See what they say and maybe get the ball rolling next month.