We are intentionally not using aluminum. We have machined tips out of copper and aluminum in the past. We could not get them to work well for terminal performance. They are too hard and will kick out to one side causing the bullet to open unevenly, resulting in the bullet being misdirected or even tumbling. Not good and one of the reasons that we have said in the past that Hammers would never have a tip. This time is different than anything we tried in the past. Has to do with tip design and how it marries up to the bullet. Unlike other tipped bullets, these do not deflect, even on drastic angled heavy bone impacts. This Hammer HHT design has actually enhanced terminal performance at low to mid range impact velocities.
We just had our own mold made and will be sourcing the tips locally. This will greatly reduce the possibility of deformed tips. We are in the process of determining the best material for producing the tips. As always, terminal performance will dictate what material is used for tip production.
@fordy will be laying these into a pile of animals as soon as we can get them in his hands. As always, we are tasking him with finding a way to make the bullet/tip fail. He was unable to get the current tip material to fail, so the standard is set.
We have sourced a company to design and manufacture a machine that will install the tips. Initial delivery estimate is spring of 2024. We could have waited another year to announce the HHT, after the year of testing we did on animals. We decided to bring it to market in the best way possible now.
Gday
I haven't been on here for awhile and had some spare time or more a distraction was warranted so what better place to come to for a laugh than lrh then you go & put the above up steve
how much crow must I eat lol
I'll leave that alone for a couple minutes while my serious kicks in as this is so important imo to finding pills with less weaknesses
Throughout my journey of trying to find a pill that covers more bases than the previous one that held the bar to a certain standard I've played with tips in many brands & learnt where they give less than ideal results to darn right failures also the good attributes ( but I look @ weakness as a better indicator as good is good in so many pills but bad hmmm I think everyone gets that part )
The hht is the only pill I've not failed.
Had one other brand come close but had subtle weaknesses in its tip design & that's a aluminium tip but way better than other aluminium tips I'd seen
I'll leave all other parts out of where a pill will fail overall in its design or a lesser extent the material used & just talking tips here
Basically The hht was immune to the normal problems associated with tips & I even went to insane angles /resistances to see if I could get that tip to falter
We ( I had a couple mates help shoot some critters while I autopsied) also ground tips down on initial testing to see what happens to different shapes /styles from a opening consistency /terminal position ( I love tinkering also to see what if ) yes I was thinking other applications also & even had deformed tips from magazine damage of a pill that sits in a magazine for 20 to 30 shots then gets fired @ distances of 400 to 500 yards checking point of impact discrepancy & terminal results
Which basically meant nothing as didn't matter what we did the consistency of that pill opening was basically the same ( you get slight differences from different resistances im talking same resistances different styles/shapes creating the same outcome )
Leave tip out & you get bigger variations across different velocities /resistances
the new tip material has got some huge shoes to fill if it's going to pass the current one & just when I thought my testing days were coming to a end the question came from the hammer boys which took me a bit to respond then the thought of mmmm can it be better ( I don't really know how from a terminal point but if you can stop magazine damage it makes the thought/confidence better imo ) so I jumped @ the chance but time will tell how much my body objects to those "yep for sure " words of mine lol
It won't affect the terminal performance.
@fordy tried to make them fail by damaging them. He did find some way to cheat and make one fail. I don't remember now what it was. Something like hitting a tree first. Maybe he will answer that.
with the above (2 parts to this )
If I remember correctly I said to Steve do you want the good or bad news & straight off the bat he said the bad first
1st part I said to Steve was i failed to fail it yep i failed not the pill & those who know me understand what lengths I go to to fail a pill & all of these are what has happened in the field over the years that I can replicate on a fairly consistent basis & how annoyed I was from a personal point not just stupid stuff that will fail pills as anyone can do that eg glass is a classic
That is not saying the hht will never fail but it's got the most runs on the boards with any pill I've shot so the chances are Murphy is held @ arms length longer
The 2nd part
Was this a fail
I guess so as I was shooting through scrub/brush & the pill failed to connect where I was aiming lol
but on further shooting with my mate we did shoot through trees with the hht & as long as the tree wasn't to big we got a completely different outcome from the hh or sh line as the petals did separate from the shank ( yes ive autopsied a few trees in my time also lol
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I don't advocate shooting a animal behind a tree to clear that up & it's one I don't test for but have hit plenty of trees on running shots with a lot of different brands with varying levels of success it's one I don't like
I will give these new tips a run to see if I can fail them but I'm not saying I will fail them this time as still have plenty of crow to eat from last time I opened my mouth
Cheers
