Chime in experts . Im thinking at least 4.5 . Possibly 5.5. He is a hoss bodied buck for my area . Ive had him as my target buck this year, but he dont do daylight so far. He loves passing through around 4 to 5 am. Im hoping for some luck when this secondary rut kicks in about a week from now. Got 89 pics last night on one camera , at least 7 different bucks , 4 are racked bucks .