7MM STW vs 28 Nosler

[etisll40]

I'd bet there are as many 7 rem mags out there compared to all the others 7's combined. Soon there will be a prc 7, just too many in my opinion. There aren't really that many long range hunters in general. Alot that hunt are going to step up to 338 for the long range hunt.

I don't know... The .28 Nosler is becoming VERY popular thanks to Browning offering it with modern twist barrels. It was slacking off back when Nosler brass was hard to find, but now that ADG has stepped up and will be releasing .28 Nosler brass this year, that will be a HUGE step to securing its future. When more than one company starts making brass and ammo for something fairly new, that tends to help a lot with its popularity, because it makes brass more available to more people. Especially if the ADG brass is going to be cheaper than the Nosler stuff, but just as good, or better in quality.

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[jshepherd61]

I'd bet there are as many 7 rem mags out there compared to all the others 7's combined. Soon there will be a prc 7, just too many in my opinion. There aren't really that many long range hunters in general. Alot that hunt are going to step up to 338 for the long range hunt.


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Long range 30 and 33 Cal's in my opinion way overkill for hunting North American game, unless hunting buffalo on a preserve!

 

[WildRose]

Long range 30 and 33 Cal's in my opinion way overkill for hunting North American game, unless hunting buffalo on a preserve!

We're all entitled to "opinions" but there's simply no basis in fact for the above opinion.

The .30 cal has been the standard by which all other long range hunting calibers have been measured against for more than a century in North America.

 

[WildRose]

I'd bet there are as many 7 rem mags out there compared to all the others 7's combined. Soon there will be a prc 7, just too many in my opinion. There aren't really that many long range hunters in general. Alot that hunt are going to step up to 338 for the long range hunt.


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If you asked the average hunter what "long range" is you'd probably get a pretty good consensus around 250-300yds.

A well placed shot from just about any centerfire of 6mm or larger with an MV of 2500fps will get the job done for 90% of them assuming they could even figure out what a well placed shot is or what an appropriate bullet is for the game and the intended POA.

We are not that crowd here.

 

[jshepherd61]

We're all entitled to "opinions" but there's simply no basis in fact for the above opinion.

The .30 cal has been the standard by which all other long range hunting calibers have been measured against for more than a century in North America.

Those times have changed drastically we've even changed our NRA standards for long range since the LR precision craze, same with FLETC. The new norm is 600 yds and beyond.

 

[WildRose]

Those times have changed drastically we've even changed our NRA standards for long range since the LR precision craze, same with FLETC. The new norm is 600 yds and beyond.

The NRA definitions for target shooting have nothing to do with long range hunting.

The .30 calibers, particularly the 30-06 dominated NRA 600, 1,000 and military competitions for over 70 years.

In the US it is the .30 cal's which are the standard by which all other center fires have been judged against for most of the last hundred years.

 

[jshepherd61]

The NRA definitions for target shooting have nothing to do with long range hunting.

The .30 calibers, particularly the 30-06 dominated NRA 600, 1,000 and military competitions for over 70 years.

In the US it is the .30 cal's which are the standard by which all other center fires have been judged against for most of the last hundred years.

I left the Navy in 2000, retired and the five year I shot on the precision team, I never touched a 30 cal except on official qualifications. We shot 6mm and 7mm cal

 

[WildRose]

I left the Navy in 2000, retired and the five year I shot on the precision team, I never touched a 30 cal except on official qualifications. We shot 6mm and 7mm cal

Which in no way supports anything you have been claiming about .30 cal's much less hunting with them.

 

[Trm82]

7rm and 7 stw are keepers, all noslers are a fad and will likely never have sold as many rifles as the 7rm and 7stw. I'll bet you see another 7mm before long... lol

7rm
7ultra mag
7stw
7 lazzaroni
7weatherby
7x57
28 nosler
7wsm
7saum

The list goes on, only 2 will dominate over the long run.

Probably best bet just get a 7rm it's still a great cartridge. I have 2 7stw's though!

Find some info for us , I would bet the 28 nosler has or is close to out selling the 7stw ? Why aren't the big names chambering the stw ? The 28 nosler I think Is not a fad and is the best of the group and sells !! It's easy to find 7stw brass but 28 nosler can be hard at times ? Why is that ? Because they are popular maybe ?

 

[VLD Pilot]

We're all entitled to "opinions" but there's simply no basis in fact for the above opinion.

The .30 cal has been the standard by which all other long range hunting calibers have been measured against for more than a century in North America.

The word "Over Kill" has no place here. There's no such thing !!!

 

[Rich Coyle]

The word "Over Kill" has no place here. There's no such thing !!!

I love it!

 

[VLD Pilot]

I love it!

I mean, what's that mean ??? We are obviously on this site because we love shooting all guns big and small. Who decides for another guy which is best for their needs. I love shooting coyotes with a 338 lapua improved with 250 grain bullets moving along at 3200 fps. Sure a 223 would do the same job but who gives a fat rats *** what gun is used. Use what you have...period.

 

[john armstrong]

Actually no, the only one of those factors that improved barrel life is the longer throat. And it's been proven that has a cancelled-affect when you pack the same amount of powder behind the bullet, the flame is going to burn the same amount of time, and just as concentrated (same bore diameter). According to the SAAMI specs, the 7mm STW has a .278" length neck, and the .28 Nosler has a .276" length neck.

So, technically, the STW should get you slightly better barrel life... Like I stated in my first post, the ONLY advantage the Nosler has over the STW is the shorter case length to fit in the magazine easier.

As far as cartridge design, yes the Nosler is more of an "improved" design with less wall taper and a sharper angled neck (which I agree in an improvement over the older "positive extraction" design with heavy taper and low shoulder angles)

I'll say this again as well...Belted or not makes no difference in how the cartridge performs.

The STW did set an ELR World Record last yr. Just saying. I did it. Love the STW !

 

[BW64]

The STW did set an ELR World Record last yr. Just saying. I did it. Love the STW !

DAM RIGHT!!

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