7mm-300 vs 28 Nosler

[OrionsStar]

Bump...

 

[Slick8]

I like both and think they each have merit.

The 7-300 offers the ability to use any magnum action vs. the Nos needing an ultra-mag action and a wider variety of brass.

If you like the 7-300, look into the 7-300 APR. It's a further improved version of the practical and IMO is the best rendition.

Give Robert a call at Alamo Precision Rifles as it's his baby.
www.aprifles.com

 

[OrionsStar]

Will do thanks!

 

[sable tireur]

Another version to consider is the 7mm Practical:

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/7mm+Practical.html

There are a couple of small changes which can result in some improvement in the case design and overall performance.

 

[FURMAN]

If you are going to do a 7-300 just get 300 bushing dies and neck down and load. What is the point of doing a bunch of extra crap for little to no gain?

 

[sable tireur]

There are two simple mindsets which usually occur in any discussion about cartridges:

-There are only one or two useful cartridges; the 30-06 and the 270 Win.

-The rest of the folks who think that the little improvements can often lead to some enjoyment and pleasure of creating different cases and the improvement in performance.

Neither is right or wrong, just different ways of looking at a subject.

Regards.

 

[FURMAN]

With all due resect that is a stupid comparison. The 7-300 and the 30-06 or the 270 are not even in the same league. The 7-300 which is being discussed in this thread is not going to see much, if any, improvement by blowing out the shoulder or doing this or that to the neck. Just using the 180 Berger hybrid as an example the node it likes will be 3050 plus or minus 25fps. The 7-300 will get it there with about 4-5 less grains than the 28 Nosler. Doing goofy stuff to the neck length or shoulder angle will gain no appreciable difference at the added cost of fire forming. If you are bored go for it. It won't make a difference.

 

[BJH]

I am currently doing load development for a 28 Nosler with a 26" barrel and a 7mm-300 Win Mag with a 28" barrel. Both shoot very well. Both will do the job on any animal in North America at very long ranges. The 28 is running 3190 fps. The 7mm-300 is currently at about 3120 fps. If you are wanting to save money with the current action and setup you have, go with the 7mm-300 Win. Loading is easy as far as case prep. Powder charges are a little more difficult because there is no standardized data, but it is not too bad. I am very impressed with both cartridges and think that you are on the right track. If you are a .284" fan, both rounds are a lot of fun and worth shooting.

 

[sable tireur]

With all due resect that is a stupid comparison. The 7-300 and the 30-06 or the 270 are not even in the same league.

And with all due respect right back at you, my statements were not intended as a comparison at all. It was simple and I stress simple, statements of dichotomies which occur during discussions here and on other forums.

As to the rest of the discussion, I've got 3 rifles of each cartridge in the final build stages right now, to the point where all I need to finish is the bedding so I can get on with the load development. I should be able to post some information in a couple of weeks if all goes as planned.

 

[257Tony]

With all due resect that is a stupid comparison. The 7-300 and the 30-06 or the 270 are not even in the same league. The 7-300 which is being discussed in this thread is not going to see much, if any, improvement by blowing out the shoulder or doing this or that to the neck. Just using the 180 Berger hybrid as an example the node it likes will be 3050 plus or minus 25fps. The 7-300 will get it there with about 4-5 less grains than the 28 Nosler. Doing goofy stuff to the neck length or shoulder angle will gain no appreciable difference at the added cost of fire forming. If you are bored go for it. It won't make a difference.

Where would you guess the next node is for the 180? My 28 gets 3250 with a 180 eld-m.

 

[FURMAN]

Nodes typically are 100-150fps apart. The node in my 28 Nosler with 180 ELDMs was 3115 with a 26" barrel. I could not get to the next node without pressure. I should have stated earlier that barrel length obviously plays a role in the velocity node.

 

[jheilman]

Been on the fence for quite some time trying to decide between these two rounds. But had plenty of time while waiting for my Curtis Custom LA. I decided on the 28 Nosler. And thought I may have messed up when I couldn't find any brass anywhere for the last 6 months, that's not a good feeling!! But Natchez Shooter Supplies came through and I have 150 in route. But OUCH, that stuff is spendy. Went with the 28 to hopefully stay away from the mag length issues I've had in the past with the longer heavier bullets. (300 RUM & 7 STW both browning A-bolts) I went with a Brux 1-8.6, MicMillan Game Hunter, H-S bottom metal, Trigger Tech trigger, and Leupold VX 6 4X24. Hoping to shoot the 195s.
I don't post on here much, but to those who do I thank you. There is a lot of very good information to be had. And any recommendations on my first full custom would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Wachsmann]

tagging in.

 

[Left Hand Dave]

I have a few questions for those of you that just added to my build issues. in a 26" barrel what velocities can one expect from each cartridge using 180 and 195 grain bullets. That would be without high pressure loads in each. I thought I was going to go with a 28 Nosler and a 338 RUM now you got me thinking about the 7-300 and the 338 RUM. Someone that knows show me a apples to apples velocity comparison please.