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My 7 STW.

I'm getting another stock and I'm pumped about it. The "Rifleman." stock

I may sell this HS Precision Pro Series 2000 with the Remington ADL-BDL conversion kit, floor plate and Wyatt Extended box. But I'm going to wait until I see how the new one shoots. Mine was bedded by a pro and I'd guess it was good as I shot a quick 3- shot ragged hole today to compare it to later at 100 yards.

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Ed, nice looking hot rod there my friend. It looks like it is going 300 MPH sitting still. Who makes the " Riflemans " stock. I have heard of it, but can't remember where I read about it, or who makes it. Is it synthetic, or wood? I now have 4 laminated wood stocks. Two are Remington LSS's, a Bobby Hart, and my latest edition is a Ruger MKII VT in 25-06. Don't get me wrong, the sendero stocks work very well, but I just like the wood feel on some of my guns. Good luck with the new handle. P/ S, you may want to do a little fine tuning on that ragged hole group. !!!!! Ha ha . Great shooting , nice job. What was your load?
 
Yup, I'll second that notion. DO NOT fool with the seating depth, it is not the problem, but you will create one if you change it, AND the primer at the same time. Effectively, you will be reformulating your load all over again.
On another note, getting back to the issue with the " lowly 140 grain bullet". There is a lot to be said for it, it smokes whitetail in there tracks, shoots flatter than a 22-250, and if shots are inside 500 yds, the added BC isn't really a issue. Drop a 140 BT, TSX, or TTSX, and send it out at about 3400, and the deer in your crosshair is guaranteed a pick- up ride. Don't take my word for it, read Layne Simpsons own words. (I think he knows a thing or two about the cartridge). However, I am not saying there is anything wrong with a 160 class bullet. One of mine is very fond of 160 grain Speer Grand Slams.
As far as your " fliers", in retrospect, and after re- reading your post, I gathered that you did get good groups when you went to another bullet, and assuming you used the same primers as before, it COULD be that the Burners after all, but I do not think it is a jacket separation issue. Barnes QC seems to be spot on these days, and I am very impressed with the bullets that I have shot. I am however, not familiar with the Barnes Burners, until I heard about them from you.
Any way, I hope you figure it out without having to unload and reload a bunch of ammo. The one and only last thig that comes to mind COULD be powder bridging in you powder funnel, when you go from round to round. That would make one load with a lighter charge, and another with a heavier charge. I have done that plenty of times, and caught myself before seating the bullet. Just another thought! Take care, and I hope things work out.
Nope, not a powder bridge-- weighing them to the tenth after the tossed charge. I've had that with big stick powders before and am careful about it.
I like 140's and have a few hundred loaded- this was simply another direction to go.
I've picked up a keg of retumbo(shiver) and I'll see what's up with that stuff- I looked back and everything I tried was double-base, whether ball or stick, so I'm gonig single base. The local joint wants 6 bucks a pound more for single pounds, so I bought a keg instead(the 300 U and 300 win can use it if this goes awry).
I had 92 rounds loaded, and I just pulled 42 of them for retumbo test pills. I'll get to the others if I get a load; if I don't I'll simply shoot 'em in cold weather 'till the bullets are gone or play with my 7rem with 'em.
I usually scrap a load if cold or hot performance is poor(ie. 7828 with a 140 in the 7rem was poor at 2" or so in cold and1/2" groups when it was hot). RL has not let me down before with variable performance, so it's been good to have other input here.
It's funny how when you try to save a buck and get better performance by switching bullets, the circus only costs more and you still have to have the proven stuff around for critters and stuff.
 
Ed, This ain"t an STW but it is my remington 700 Classic in .257 Roberts that I just finished the stock this morning. I had planned on painting it a green textured color, but while in Lowe's I found this awesome black/tan/gray/combo textured paint that changed my mind!! Did you ever get your stock completed??...post us some pictures!!!! Man, That one you just posted is an awesome piece!!!!!! "One ragged hole" I'd not change a thing!!LOL!!!gun)

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I was just getting caught up on here from the last few days. I was loading some STW, .257 Rbts, .300 Win loads a couple of days ago and I was wondering how many people actually weight each and every powder charge?? I do and add or subtract to the exact wieght if it is off...How many of you do that???
 
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Probably a waste of time, but I do it anyway........

I recently weighed 50 .300 Win Mag cases (Rem) and found about 9 grains difference from lightest to heaviest. Loaded the very same components into 3 lightest and 3 heaviest cases; fired all six rounds into one group (at only 100 yds.) and identified each round as it was fired. On the 5th round, the butt bag slipped a bit, the bullet hit slightly higher than the others, but in the group.

Normal groups for this rifle are 1/2 to 3/4 in. at 100 yds. The test group was about 7/8 in. including the "slipped bag" shot. One hundred yds. is probably not far enough to actually see any difference caused by the different case weights.
Weighing cases, or even powder charges, is probably the biggest waste of time for most shooting that we do.
 
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I'll weigh brass if there is an accuracy concern if and when I switch brass. I sometimes weigh a sample lot just to make sure, but I've not done much of that lately because it's always plus and minus a couple of grains and that's it. Make sure you trim your brass before you weigh it Many don't do this and get wonky numbers.


Well, on to my odyssey with the barnes 171's. I loaded 5 of each at 74, 76, and 78 with retumbo in the same lot of brass and primers that gave the flaky accuracy before. If that doesn't work, I'm going with wlrm's and both powders, and if I'm still bust I'll shoot them in win brass in case they want less neck tension.
If that doesn't work I'll be out of bullets (or I'll finish them in the 7rem) and everyone will know how they shoot.
 
I was just getting caught up on here from the last few days. I was loading some STW, .257 Rbts, .300 Win loads a couple of days ago and I was wondering how many people actually weight each and every powder charge?? I do and add or subtract to the exact wieght if it is off...How many of you do that???
I dump the charge 1/2 grain light and trickle up to weight. A heavy drop will be right on.
 
Ed, This ain"t an STW but it is my remington 700 Classic in .257 Roberts that I just finished the stock this morning. I had planned on painting it a green textured color, but while in Lowe's I found this awesome black/tan/gray/combo textured paint that changed my mind!! Did you ever get your stock completed??...post us some pictures!!!! Man, That one you just posted is an awesome piece!!!!!! "One ragged hole" I'd not change a thing!!LOL!!!gun)

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Thats a sharp looking rig
 
Ed, nice looking hot rod there my friend. It looks like it is going 300 MPH sitting still. Who makes the " Riflemans " stock. I have heard of it, but can't remember where I read about it, or who makes it. Is it synthetic, or wood? I now have 4 laminated wood stocks. Two are Remington LSS's, a Bobby Hart, and my latest edition is a Ruger MKII VT in 25-06. Don't get me wrong, the sendero stocks work very well, but I just like the wood feel on some of my guns. Good luck with the new handle. P/ S, you may want to do a little fine tuning on that ragged hole group. !!!!! Ha ha . Great shooting , nice job. What was your load?
Did I hear someone say 25-06??????
 
Ed, This ain"t an STW but it is my remington 700 Classic in .257 Roberts that I just finished the stock this morning. I had planned on painting it a green textured color, but while in Lowe's I found this awesome black/tan/gray/combo textured paint that changed my mind!! Did you ever get your stock completed??...post us some pictures!!!! Man, That one you just posted is an awesome piece!!!!!! "One ragged hole" I'd not change a thing!!LOL!!!gun)

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Sackett, very nice finish, and I like the color. It dosen't have to be a STW to show it off. And the caliber's a beauty also. Remington got it right when they made it into a LONG action. Beautiful rifle, and trophies too!!! Nice job.
 
Hi Guys - I am looking to sell my 7STW and pick up a new one. Nothing wrong with the old one, just want to get something that is exactly what I've always wanted. So I am looking for some advice on what my old one is worth & what I should ask for it.

It is a Sako model 995 - Factory original - no upgrades or changes other than a trigger job (2lbs, breaks like glass). For those not familiar with this rifle, It is built on the TRG-S action, which is a 3 lug push feed design. It has a 26" medium contour free floated barrell, black synthetic monte carlo stock with a nice palm swell. The action is a matte blue finish and the barrell & bolt handle are a high luster blue. One feature I like is the detachable box magazine which holds 4 rounds. I bought it used 10 years ago and have only shot 60 rounds through it. Never had any malfunctions or failure to feed. It was in 99.9% condition when I got it and still is. For me this gun was always a pleasure to shoot, recoil very manageable, probably due to the stock design. I have 2 sets of Sako rings (med & high) that mate with the integral dovetail bases on the receiver. The rifle weighs 9.2 lbs with a 4x14.5 VXIII CDS on it. I would sell it with or without the scope.

If anyone can help me set a price please let me know.
 
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