Thank you for the information. Looks like Norma or Nosler would be the best choice right now.First time using Nosler or Hornady brass for me was this spring for Dads 7RM and a friend's 270 Win. Nosler is the most consistent brass I've ever worked with, I am extremely impressed. 180 Berger just over 3000 with H1000. Can't say about longevity yet. The Hornady primer pockets were so loose that you could almost seat the primer by hand, he will be lucky to get 4 firings. I won't be buying any Hornady brass.