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7mm Elk Bullets- Berger Alternates
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Now now, everyone knows energy is irrelevant so dont go confusing the OP with all this bullet energy dump mumbo-jumbo.
But seriously, some good info offered so far in this thread
I know many non-believers are out there, and frankly, I do not care, but the laws of physics cannot be denied. Whether they believe it or ignore it, energy transfer (energy dump or whatever terminology is used to get the point across) happens regardless.Now now, everyone knows energy is irrelevant so dont go confusing the OP with all this bullet energy dump mumbo-jumbo.
But seriously, some good info offered so far in this thread
FireFlyFishing
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ABLR
Buffalobwana
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I believe this is what you will find with any heavy bullet. If it's heavy, it takes a couple inches to pry that thing open.
Plus, the stuff you want to pulverize is a couple inches in anyway.
I think you are splitting hairs trying to get ballistic tip expansion on a heavy bullet with 100% weight.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
A little under your desired weight but Badlands have done very well for me. Easy to load, accurate, great for hunting, and retain weight
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.284 160gr Super Bulldozer-2 - Badlands precision, LLC
Length: 1.655″ BC (G1): .690 BC (G7): .353 Twist: 1-7″ Price: 50/BOX
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Longrangers
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They perform well. There is good and bad in them all.
std7mag
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Hard to beat the Berger bullets.
The VLD are one of my go to bullets.
The other being the Nosler Ballistic Tips.
My daughter took a nice 6pt a few years ago with my Ruger 77 MKII in 257 Roberts using the 115gr Berger VLD at about 70 yards.
"He kinda puffed up, went straight legged and fell over."
Multiple deer at different distances with multiple cartridges and calibers, haven't had a pass through yet with the VLD.
Usually find the jacket under the off side hide.
I've never not had a pass through with the Nosler Ballistic Tip.
Still do lots of internal damage.
I tried the 150gr ABLR with my 7mm Rem Mag.
At 35 yards I was surprised at the lack of damage done compared to the Ballistic Tip.
I was planning on using the Berger 150gr Classic Hunter in my 7mm Rem Mag and 7mm WBY Mag, if i can get an elk tag this year.
Then i found a box of 168gr Classic Hunter that I forgot I had.
The VLD are one of my go to bullets.
The other being the Nosler Ballistic Tips.
My daughter took a nice 6pt a few years ago with my Ruger 77 MKII in 257 Roberts using the 115gr Berger VLD at about 70 yards.
"He kinda puffed up, went straight legged and fell over."
Multiple deer at different distances with multiple cartridges and calibers, haven't had a pass through yet with the VLD.
Usually find the jacket under the off side hide.
I've never not had a pass through with the Nosler Ballistic Tip.
Still do lots of internal damage.
I tried the 150gr ABLR with my 7mm Rem Mag.
At 35 yards I was surprised at the lack of damage done compared to the Ballistic Tip.
I was planning on using the Berger 150gr Classic Hunter in my 7mm Rem Mag and 7mm WBY Mag, if i can get an elk tag this year.
Then i found a box of 168gr Classic Hunter that I forgot I had.
KH_Outdoors
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I'll second the McGuire's. I'm currently using the 143 7mm in 7 saum. The 160 & 168 gr models would be my choice for "long range" and to fill that space of a tue long range 180-195 gr projectile. For size comparison the 143 is similar profile to a 180 Hybrid, and the 160 is similar profile yo a 195 EOL. The 168 is massive.
KsKevin
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What's your concern / issue with 2-3 inch penetration, then rapid expansion" specifically? Have you had failures? Just trying to understand what is the problem you are trying to solve for.
Lee Goodwin
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Accubonds are hard to beat
When I lived in the south and traveled to the northwest to hunt elk and mule deer at first I used Nosler Partition but at one time they became hard to find so I switched to Nosler Accubond 180 gr 30 cal bullets and have never gone back to Partitions.Never recovered an Accubond,all pass through's and enough damage that I have recovered all animals I have shot with them so far.
I shoot a custom 7WSM and I am lucky enough to have two super accurate bullets. Number one is 180 Berger Vld.and the other is Barnes 168 LRX. I wanted to have one solid to go along with the Berger just in case. Both have killed animals, but probably 95% have been with the Berger's. I have never lost a single animal with Bergers. 14 elk, 6 mulies, 3 black bear, 1 Rocky Mtn big horn , 1 dall sheep Most of these are 1 shot kills the others I put another in for good measure but they were standing dead anyway. I've only witnessed 1 pass through on a muley. The rest are found in pieces on the opposite side with internals looking like soup.
I get some don't like this but dead is dead and I cannot deny the results I've had. Good luck in your decision.
What about the old, unloved, forgotten, ineffective, out of date Sierra SBT? I always seem to go back around to them. One thing I like about them is every individual bullet has its own description. Just bought a rifle on the forum and the biggest sell for me was I got the matchkings with it.
