I have a couple of boxes of the 154's and one partial box of 162's if you need some. i started using Berger 168 gr. in my 7mm WSM loaded to a mild 2850 fps. I've killed javelina, pronghorn, deer, aoudad and elk with that bullet, but never closer than 200 yards. I hunt open country. The high sectional density insures it will penetrate well. The explosiveness guarantees DRT. The high B.C. guarantees it will maintain velocity and energy. I've heard that sometimes the tip gets mashed and they will pencil through. Hasn't happened to me, but I bought a pin drill to make sure they're open before a hunt.