Shot the Mountainx last evening with Gunwerks recommended load with Berger 180 hybrid, 70.5 h1000, 3.403oal. Had a three shot group of .349". Tried 71.0 that Rick was using, with the same oal. Shot .201" three shot group at 100 yards. WOW!! Same gun that can't group better than 2 inches with the 175 ELDX. I guess I figured out where my problem was. Sneekehunter, I hope you get yours worked out soon. Labor Day Fire Sale coming on 175ELDX that Gunwerks said was the latest and greatest.