Nobody will argue that 6mm or 6.5 is not accurate or cheap too shoot. Its just not a elk hunting gun plain and simple if bring ethical hunter matters too you. Hang around outfitters long enough you'll hear horror stories like previously stated most wont allow under .30. Cal some 7mm most wont allow 6.5. Why because they dont want to chase a animal. I killed a lot of elk with a 25/06 as a kid. I also chased a lot.