longrangeshooter1
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Im debating what would be betterfor groundhogs outto 500 yards and in a 204 1-12 twist or 22.250 1-14 twist anyone have experionce with either?
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Browninglover1
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My longest rock chuck kill with my 22-250 was around 400 yards and at that distance the 55 grain Ballistic Tip put a big old hole in him! I've shot to 500 yards with it at prairie dogs and at that distance they didn't explode near as much as at 300 but some of them still got launched pretty good.
I used to think the 204 was a little weak for longer shots but I saw but my uncle hit a coyote at 490 yards with a texas heart shot and he folded like I'd hit him with my 200 short mag. I'm now a believer that the 204 is a good long range cartridge (out to 500 yards) especially when you use the 40 grain bullet. I actually shot a coyote with my 250 at just over 350 yards and it dropped him right there with a good broadside shoulder shot then I watched my uncle do the same thing with his 204 at almost the same distance and the results (including the exit wounds) were exactly the same.
I love my 22-250 and wouldn't trade it for anything (it was the first gun I shot a sub 1/2 inch group with) but I've really looked at adding a 204 to my collection. My favorite part about the 204 is that even in a light barreled rifle I was able to watch my hits on prairie dogs and I really missed watching them explode when I had to give back the 204 and shoot my 250 again.
I don't think you could go wrong with either even though convention says the 55 grain bullet out of the 22-250 should kill better than the 40 grain bullet out of the 204 I've honestly not noticed a difference when we've shot prairie dogs and coyotes.
I used to think the 204 was a little weak for longer shots but I saw but my uncle hit a coyote at 490 yards with a texas heart shot and he folded like I'd hit him with my 200 short mag. I'm now a believer that the 204 is a good long range cartridge (out to 500 yards) especially when you use the 40 grain bullet. I actually shot a coyote with my 250 at just over 350 yards and it dropped him right there with a good broadside shoulder shot then I watched my uncle do the same thing with his 204 at almost the same distance and the results (including the exit wounds) were exactly the same.
I love my 22-250 and wouldn't trade it for anything (it was the first gun I shot a sub 1/2 inch group with) but I've really looked at adding a 204 to my collection. My favorite part about the 204 is that even in a light barreled rifle I was able to watch my hits on prairie dogs and I really missed watching them explode when I had to give back the 204 and shoot my 250 again.
I don't think you could go wrong with either even though convention says the 55 grain bullet out of the 22-250 should kill better than the 40 grain bullet out of the 204 I've honestly not noticed a difference when we've shot prairie dogs and coyotes.
MrMajestic
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Why not the .22-250 with a 1 in 8" twist. Shoot the 75 gr. A-Max or one of the 77-80 gr. slugs. Should buck the wind a lot better. Elevation is easy, the wind will get you!
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longrangeshooter1
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I'd like to have one with 1-8 twist but I'm in process of building 6.5-284 and funds are low so they are the only ones I have a choice for the 204 is savage and 22.250 is rem
SBruce
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The 204 doesn't impress me (for Wyoming winds anyway) unless it's shooting 40 grn bullets at close to 4000'/sec. Factory ammo specs and ballistics with lighter bullets aren't that impressive, and show it falling to 2nd place ballistically. The 22-250 will push a 40 at close to 4000'/sec, just burns more powder doing it. The 20 cal 40 will have a higher BC though.
22-250 shooting 55's or 60's at 3700 (which a 14 should do) is tough to beat at 500, especially when wind is involved.
22-250 shooting 55's or 60's at 3700 (which a 14 should do) is tough to beat at 500, especially when wind is involved.
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B23
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Don't you think that new 53Vmax in a 22-250 with it's BC better than the 60's ought to be the hot ticket???
SBruce
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53 V-Max with better BC than 60 V-Max? I hadn't heard of that yet.
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B23
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Yes sir, it was a late fall new release from Hornady. Has a BC of .290 It has the tiny little boat tail like the 40 and 50 Vmax and is actually longer than the 55Vmax. It's a pretty cool looking little bullet, has a very short bearing surface and a very aggressive, long taper. Take a look for yourself.
New 53 vmax - PredatorMasters Forums
New 53 vmax - PredatorMasters Forums
SBruce
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That's good news! I'll have to try some of those when I can find em.
If the BC is really .290, that's great. They advertise the 60 V-max at .265
Thanks for sharing
If the BC is really .290, that's great. They advertise the 60 V-max at .265
Thanks for sharing
pathfinder82
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You might look into a 220 Swift !
MrMajestic
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Savage makes a 1in9" and my .223 with that twist will stabilize the 75 gr. A-Max so the .22-250 being faster should.
woodnut
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I'm in the serious thinking process on getting another AR upper built. I love my 223A.I. but it has a 12 twist and I want a bullet to reach out to 500 to maybe 600 yards with authority. Been contemplating the 69 to 70 gr. 224s or maybe the 6 TCU. I just don't think the six will get er dun. My 223 A.I. now shoots 55s to 22/250 velocities (chronoed) and I think I could reach 500 on PDs with it. Just thinking about another one with an 8 or 9 twist for a heavier bullet. As to your predicament; I really think the 223A.I. with a 9 or 8 twist will do everything a 22/250 will but without the recoil,extra powder, blast, and barrel erosion. Just my 2 cents.
longrangeshooter1
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Iv been tryng to find a 223 with 1-9 twist so I could then make it ai. If not I may get the 22.250 with 1-14 and rechamber it to 22.243 so I may be able to get away with a heavier bullets with all the velocity.
