Having hunted Cape Buffalo…they are "totally" unpredictable…..I'd personally go bigger then 45-70…
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.45-70 Grizz Defense
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jpndave
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Has the metal on your Marlin been Cerakote or similar? I like the look of that. Might need to do mine...
I have not shot, nor killed, any U. arctos. I am a student of the bullet.
Hunting and defensive-against-toothy/clawed bullets have different requirements. Ditto shot placement.
Defensive bullets need to break enough bone or disrupt enough nerve activity to stop said toothy/clawed critter from injuring you. Straight line bullet travel and deep penetration are helpful for that. Almost any brain hit will suffice. Broken spine helps. Broken neck helps. Blood trail does not help. Bloodshot meat does not help. Holes in bloody organs do not help right away. From everything I have read, you will want instant results. Best to use a non-deforming, or mostly so, bullet. Cast is where I go. No need for crazy hard alloys like lino or stereotype. A heat treated wheel weight will probably be more than hard enough. My air cooled wheel weight 45/70 bullets don't deform much at 15-1800 unless they hit large rocks and they are way softer than buffalo bore's or garrett's bullets.
Hunting and defensive-against-toothy/clawed bullets have different requirements. Ditto shot placement.
Defensive bullets need to break enough bone or disrupt enough nerve activity to stop said toothy/clawed critter from injuring you. Straight line bullet travel and deep penetration are helpful for that. Almost any brain hit will suffice. Broken spine helps. Broken neck helps. Blood trail does not help. Bloodshot meat does not help. Holes in bloody organs do not help right away. From everything I have read, you will want instant results. Best to use a non-deforming, or mostly so, bullet. Cast is where I go. No need for crazy hard alloys like lino or stereotype. A heat treated wheel weight will probably be more than hard enough. My air cooled wheel weight 45/70 bullets don't deform much at 15-1800 unless they hit large rocks and they are way softer than buffalo bore's or garrett's bullets.
sbruni
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Lee Hadaway (the Arms Arm Trinidad) did a bunch of work on that one including the coating… I think he uses KG instead of ceracoat… it's held up really well. He also did a breakdown for me that I absolutely love.
sbruni
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Rather that's the Arms Room Trinidad Co
VICTORNTN
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+1 for KG Gunkote. When I de-burred my new ( 10 years ago) 1895 Big Loop I had shiny spots all over it. A friend was set up to use KG Gunkote. He did an excellent job and the stuff is tough as nails.
Can an average person do that or does it take a professional equiptment?
VICTORNTN
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Sand blast, air brush and oven.
deaner 20
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Hell just looking at that bullet scary
WYO300RUM
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If I were bowhunting I wouldn't really want to carry a rifle also unless somebody was with you without a bow and had a rifle or shotgun. Maybe the guide or buddy. I'd carry a pistol and maybe spray also. Just me. Digging your rifles though !
sbruni
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I have a 375 H&H, 404 Jeff & 416 Rigby but just wanted to do a classic American firearm… I was well backed up but was pretty impressed with its performance… if you buy into the Taylor formula (which for this cartridges is appropriate) the 540 grain +p load falls between the 400grn 404 Jeff and the 400 416 Rigby… 375 H&H is well below.. I think most of the hype against 45-70 isn't considering modern actions and +p loadings… I wouldn't hesitate to do it again… now back to topic
Backcountry_IDN
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Luckily there will be 3 of us hunting together all packing so I guess as long as I trip one of them I'll be good to get a few rounds off
LongRange1982
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Hot ****! That is AWESOME! Congrats.
