.358 Winchester experience anyone?

[AZShooter]

Lot of great top loads listed. My late friend left me a model 7 KS stocked 358. I made him his handloads over 8 years ago. We used the 225 gr Sierra and varget for velocity around 2525 fps.

I wanted to make a mild load and use it for javelina which doesn't require full power loads. Consulted Hodgdon's reduced load information page on H4895.

https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/h4895-reduced-rifle-loads.pdf

Purchased some 180 gr Speer FN, 1990 fps with 40 gr. Very pleasant to shoot.

I understand that pistol bullets will work as well but where I shopped there was a limited number of bullets available. Some pistol bullets have an upper velocity limit.

 

[Will Gray]

I hunted with a 358 Winchester last year. Killed every time I fired it, great performer. The 35 Whelen is a great performer and is one of the few rifles available that meets the Louisiana "primitive" season requirement of a single shot exposed hammer rifle. Just worked up a 358/300RUM wildcat. It is shooting 225 SGKs under an inch at 3000fps with 96g of IMR4831. Have some 250g bullets on order. I like all the hunting rounds that are >30 caliber.

 

[greenejc]

I hunted with a 358 Winchester last year. Killed every time I fired it, great performer. The 35 Whelen is a great performer and is one of the few rifles available that meets the Louisiana "primitive" season requirement of a single shot exposed hammer rifle. Just worked up a 358/300RUM wildcat. It is shooting 225 SGKs under an inch at 3000fps with 96g of IMR4831. Have some 250g bullets on order. I like all the hunting rounds that are >30 caliber.

Whelen's Northwoods Trails is a website that has a lot of info on the .35's, including a 358/300 Winmag. I thought that would be a pretty good wildcat, but the 358 Rum may be a whole step above that. Let me know what your trajectories are with the Sierra, Nosler and Speer bullets when you're through working up loads. I'm assuming you're just necking up the 300 or 338 Rum or necking down the 375 Rum. I'd like to see what the 375 Ruger is like necked down to 358, too.

 

[greenejc]

Lot of great top loads listed. My late friend left me a model 7 KS stocked 358. I made him his handloads over 8 years ago. We used the 225 gr Sierra and varget for velocity around 2525 fps.

I wanted to make a mild load and use it for javelina which doesn't require full power loads. Consulted Hodgdon's reduced load information page on H4895.

https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/h4895-reduced-rifle-loads.pdf

Purchased some 180 gr Speer FN, 1990 fps with 40 gr. Very pleasant to shoot.

I understand that pistol bullets will work as well but where I shopped there was a limited number of bullets available. Some pistol bullets have an upper velocity limit.

I think you will want to stay with the 158 grain and above pistol bullets, and maybe just the soft points and keep your velocities below around 2,000fps, as most pistol bullets have much thinner jackets.

 

[Muddyboots]

The .358 W is a hammer and take a look at Fury Bullets for bullets designed for the velocity etc of the .358Win. I had Dennis make me up a 190 gr spitzer that shoots lights out! He will custom whatever you want and is reasonable.
LINK: Fury Bullets

 

[Will Gray]

Whelen's Northwoods Trails is a website that has a lot of info on the .35's, including a 358/300 Winmag. I thought that would be a pretty good wildcat, but the 358 Rum may be a whole step above that. Let me know what your trajectories are with the Sierra, Nosler and Speer bullets when you're through working up loads. I'm assuming you're just necking up the 300 or 338 Rum or necking down the 375 Rum. I'd like to see what the 375 Ruger is like necked down to 358, too.

Using 300 RUM brass necked up to 338 EDGE, now 358/300 RUM, 375 RUM, 416/300 RUM all necked up from the basic 300 RUM brass (R-P and Norma)

 

[Blackkettle]

The Whelen is just too much for most stuff here. The 358 covers all the bases and yes I aslo have a trusty 35 rem levergun for the thick mtn brush.
I always wanted a whelen but as I grow older Ive grown smarter.... Lol

 

[6.5x300 WBY]

Plz let this thread die. Or I am going have to get that BLR 81 358 win. I have dreamed about for a long time.

 

[greenejc]

The Whelen is just too much for most stuff here. The 358 covers all the bases and yes I aslo have a trusty 35 rem levergun for the thick mtn brush.
I always wanted a whelen but as I grow older Ive grown smarter.... Lol

I guess I've just grown older and not so much smarter, because I just got my second Whelen. William Trotter made it for me using a Remington 700 action and a 26 inch E. R. Shaw barrel with a 1 in 14 inch twist. He put a Magpul stock on it and it already had a Timney trigger in it. The loads for my other .35 shoot great in it, so I don't have to do much to make it accurate. I'm getting around 0.7 inch groups with both Sierra 225 grain and Speer 250 grain bullets and RL15 or CFE 223. I had him mount a Shepherd P2 scope on it, and at 8,000 ft, it matches up for shots to 700 or 800 yards. I haven't chronographed this rifle yet, but the same loads in my 24" Remington shoot around 2725fps for the Sierra and 2675fps for the Speer. And yes, its a hammer with either load, and out to around 500 yards, easily. Chest exit wounds on mulies and whitetails are fist-sized at 400 yards.

 

[greenejc]

Plz let this thread die. Or I am going have to get that BLR 81 358 win. I have dreamed about for a long time.

I think that would be a great rifle, with really fast follow-up shots. BLRs are really accurate, too. Now I'm going to tempt you. You could probably order a take-down from Browning with both the 358 winchester and the .308 Winchester, and maybe even the 338-08 (338 Federal, I think).

 

[Deleted member 112772]

I sold my Browning BLR in .358 (it was broken from the factory btw great quality control at Browning ). I shot 220gn Speers at about 2350fps. First animal I took was about a 250lb black bear at about 60 yards. I put a round through the lungs that bear dropped like a bolt of lightning hit it. The second animal was a black tail at about 10yds. I shot and thought I missed because it slowly walked away.. it didn't even act like it was shot. So I shot it again at about 25 yards. It then dropped.
I shot a lot of different bullet weights. My favorite was the Speer 220gn and the Hornady 200gn. I was not impressed with 250s. Velocity was slow which is to be expected from the case capacity and barrel length. If you want a short range cartridge that works and hits way out of proportion. You'd be hard to beat the 358 Win.

 

[6.5x300 WBY]

I think that would be a great rifle, with really fast follow-up shots. BLRs are really accurate, too. Now I'm going to tempt you. You could probably order a take-down from Browning with both the 358 winchester and the .308 Winchester, and maybe even the 338-08 (338 Federal, I think).

You got to stop. Only interested in the 358 win. But might have to start looking

 

[Darryle]

You got to stop. Only interested in the 358 win. But might have to start looking

I will just leave this here

Then there's Cousin Bongo's 358 from the AH forums, I would love to fondle this one

 

[Blackkettle]

445 supermag........live the dream, live the dream.