338 XC, Snipetac, or EnABELR

[btap1991]

My end goal would be to kill a wolf or coyote at 1500 one day and elk ect at 1000
Past that atleast right now I'm not a good enoug shot to confident further than that.
Have no doubt their are guys on here that could…
Non related but funny
Last two times I went hunting I saw
People miss inside of 200yards multiple times

 

[idcwby]

Figuring out that no one makes a stock for the Tac Driver action that weighs around 30oz. They all seem to be 4lbs or more. Guess I'll have to have a custom one made, to be able to make my weight.

 

[Taylorbok]

Figuring out that no one makes a stock for the Tac Driver action that weighs around 30oz. They all seem to be 4lbs or more. Guess I'll have to have a custom one made, to be able to make my weight.

I thought a Tac-30 had a Rem700 footprint

 

[VLD Pilot]

I thought a Tac-30 had a Rem700 footprint

I think there based on the .505 bolt (Gibbs)different than the TAC 30 and the action body is larger than the Rem 700. Could be wrong but it's what I remember

 

[sable tireur]

Direct from the Stiller website, all the descriptions possible:

Description

The TAC30 actions are designed for tactical use. They can also be used for long range hunting. They are bead blasted 416R stainless and are Remington 700 footprint. The TAC30 will fit any stock with a Remington short action inlet. TAC30 actions are available with 223, 308 and magnum bolt faces. The 223 bolt face uses the Sako style extractor, while the others use a modified M16 type. The magazine cutout is the same as a Remington 700. They have #8 screw holes for scope base mounting. One piece picatinny rails with 0 or 20 moa cant are available. All tactical actions feature a screw-on bolt knob. The bolts have a new proprietary coating that makes them as smooth as glass.

• Receiver Material: 416 Stainless hardened to 42 Rockwell
• Receiver Length:
  • TAC30 and Predator Short – 7.850"
  • Wraith Short (integral lug) – 8.037"
  • Predator Medium – 8.200"
  • TAC30 and Predator Long – 8.700"
  • Wraith Long (integral lug) – 8.887
  • P1000 short – 8.265
  • P1000 V long – 9.155"
  • TAC338 – 9.165"
  • Tac DRIVER – 10.25"
• Receiver Diameter:
  • Predator, Predator V, TAC30, & TAC300 – 1.35" (Remington 700)
  • Wraith – 1.35", across flats
  • P1000 – 1.35" or 1.55"
  • TAC338 – 1.40"
  • TAC DRIVER – 1.45" or 1.60"
• Headspace:
  • Short, Medium, Long, Wraith – .700"
  • P1000 – 1.115"
  • TAC338 – 1.000"
  • TAC DRIVER – 1.100"
  • Headspace tolerance is held to +/- .001"
• Tenon threads Threads are made with a single point boring bar and indexed to top center of action. This allows any barrel ever fitted to a Stiller Action to be screwed onto any other Stiller Action without need for re-headspacing or re-indexing.
• Bolt Design:
  • TAC30, TAC300, PREDATOR, WRAITH – .700" diameter
  • TAC338, TAC DRIVER – .750" diameter
  • One piece fluted on top and sides but not the bottom so that flutes will not interfere with magazine lips. TAC actions have straight bolt handle and PREDATOR actions have swept bolt handle. Bolt knob is threaded. TAC actions have large knob and PREDATOR actions have small knob. Aftermarket knobs can be swapped out by user or gunsmith.
• Bolt Stop: On side of receiver opposite bolt handle above the stock line
• Bolt Throw: 90 degree
• Bolt Material: Chrome Molly hardened to 42 Rockwell
• Bolt Coating: Proprietary double layer coating makes them as smooth as glass
• Firing Pin: Fluted Stainless Steel, .068 diameter tip, Chrome silicon spring
• Extractor/Ejector: Modified M16 type extractor, Rem 700 style pin ejector
• Recoil Lug: 416R Stainless parallel sided or tapered. .187" (Rem700 standard) or .300" produced in house and surface ground to .0002" tolerance.

 

[VLD Pilot]

Direct from the Stiller website, all the descriptions possible:

Description

The TAC30 actions are designed for tactical use. They can also be used for long range hunting. They are bead blasted 416R stainless and are Remington 700 footprint. The TAC30 will fit any stock with a Remington short action inlet. TAC30 actions are available with 223, 308 and magnum bolt faces. The 223 bolt face uses the Sako style extractor, while the others use a modified M16 type. The magazine cutout is the same as a Remington 700. They have #8 screw holes for scope base mounting. One piece picatinny rails with 0 or 20 moa cant are available. All tactical actions feature a screw-on bolt knob. The bolts have a new proprietary coating that makes them as smooth as glass.

• Receiver Material: 416 Stainless hardened to 42 Rockwell
• Receiver Length:
  • TAC30 and Predator Short – 7.850"
  • Wraith Short (integral lug) – 8.037"
  • Predator Medium – 8.200"
  • TAC30 and Predator Long – 8.700"
  • Wraith Long (integral lug) – 8.887
  • P1000 short – 8.265
  • P1000 V long – 9.155"
  • TAC338 – 9.165"
  • Tac DRIVER – 10.25"
• Receiver Diameter:
  • Predator, Predator V, TAC30, & TAC300 – 1.35" (Remington 700)
  • Wraith – 1.35", across flats
  • P1000 – 1.35" or 1.55"
  • TAC338 – 1.40"
  • TAC DRIVER – 1.45" or 1.60"
• Headspace:
  • Short, Medium, Long, Wraith – .700"
  • P1000 – 1.115"
  • TAC338 – 1.000"
  • TAC DRIVER – 1.100"
  • Headspace tolerance is held to +/- .001"
• Tenon threads Threads are made with a single point boring bar and indexed to top center of action. This allows any barrel ever fitted to a Stiller Action to be screwed onto any other Stiller Action without need for re-headspacing or re-indexing.
• Bolt Design:
  • TAC30, TAC300, PREDATOR, WRAITH – .700" diameter
  • TAC338, TAC DRIVER – .750" diameter
  • One piece fluted on top and sides but not the bottom so that flutes will not interfere with magazine lips. TAC actions have straight bolt handle and PREDATOR actions have swept bolt handle. Bolt knob is threaded. TAC actions have large knob and PREDATOR actions have small knob. Aftermarket knobs can be swapped out by user or gunsmith.
• Bolt Stop: On side of receiver opposite bolt handle above the stock line
• Bolt Throw: 90 degree
• Bolt Material: Chrome Molly hardened to 42 Rockwell
• Bolt Coating: Proprietary double layer coating makes them as smooth as glass
• Firing Pin: Fluted Stainless Steel, .068 diameter tip, Chrome silicon spring
• Extractor/Ejector: Modified M16 type extractor, Rem 700 style pin ejector
• Recoil Lug: 416R Stainless parallel sided or tapered. .187" (Rem700 standard) or .300" produced in house and surface ground to .0002" tolerance.

Don't get more descriptive than that.

 

[Taylorbok]

I think there based on the .505 bolt (Gibbs)different than the TAC 30 and the action body is larger than the Rem 700. Could be wrong but it's what I remember

I totally misread his post you are correct

 

[VLD Pilot]

I totally misread his post you are correct

Well I have a few Stiller actions. I knew the TAC 30 was not the same as the TAC Driver. Closer to the TAC 338 but not the same either.

 

[Decap]

Figuring out that no one makes a stock for the Tac Driver action that weighs around 30oz. They all seem to be 4lbs or more. Guess I'll have to have a custom one made, to be able to make my weight.

Take a look at the manners t4 the straight stock with the elite carbon fiber shell. Not the adjustable one should be about 34 Oz They will cut it for the smaller tac 408 they don't advertise it but they'll do it if you ask.

 

[idcwby]

Take a look at the manners t4 the straight stock with the elite carbon fiber shell. Not the adjustable one should be about 34 Oz They will cut it for the smaller tac 408 they don't advertise it but they'll do it if you ask.

F-Class and LRT stocks are the only ones they said would work and they can't make them lighter. I know Manners makes a good product, but I can get a custom one cheaper, I've figured out from looking around.

 

[Decap]

They must have stopped inletting the lighter stocks for it then. If the F class and LRT are your only choices then yeah no deal. Not only are they way heavy, but way too bulky for a hunting gun as well. Not to mention they're about 13 to $1500. Too bad they stopped doing the lighter stocks this is what one looked like when they still did:

 

[idcwby]

That action makes the stock look small. I figured there would be more options out there for this action size. The other part is the lack of willingness to accommodate the action. The other thing I've discovered is only two options for scope bases.

 

[Decap]

You are correct, it does make it look small, although if you saw a complete gun in one the shorter barrel you would have on a hunting gun offsets it somewhat. Not a lot of great options in stocks at all, and without the carbon stocks, virtually nothing that's going to meet your weight limit. Basically you have the McMillan A5 and A6 supermags, The Manners and Mcmillan competition stocks, and the cadex and mcrees precision chassis. All are five + pounds or better. Part of the problem is the gun you're trying to build goes the opposite way of about 98% of the builds on this action. Most people building on an action this size are trying to get the gun as heavy as possible for stability and recoil control. If you can get a custom stock made it would be the way to go for your purposes. I would just caution to be sure it will stand up to the recoil of your chosen round. Not to point out the obvious but losing weight typically means losing strength. Mcrees used to make scope bases in a bunch of different cants and heights. Now they only make a couple and they're for the bigger action. Although they are a custom shop so I'm sure they still have programming in the machine. If you ask they might run you a custom one.

 

[Decap]

Also just noticed in one of your earlier posts you said you were thinking 32" on the barrel? You're going to need a carbon barrel to make weight and I'm not sure I've ever seen one that long. In a proof, for that shank size, your only option is 375 caliber and that one is only 30" and it's still over 6 pounds.