.338 WinMag

JoeB -

You do realize that post from swe123 is nearly four years ago?
I do, I have tried to message SWE123 directly, but I don't see that function available. I have been looking to get a .338 Kleinguenther as I used to shoot my grandfather's, but it was stolen from my uncle's truck and I've been trying to find a replacement and have not had any luck finding one over the last year.
 
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The last trip to Africa I took my 338WM with 200gr Nosler AB. They did a great job in downing the animals I shot. All were shot animals. Four to Four. Most moved about 20yds before going down. One drop in it's track. One was a black-back-jackel running @ about 70yds. I was going to have it mounted, but it blew a hole out the other side about 4" size. I have one mounted and in full colors. This one looked a Coyote.
I have had several people that came over during the years, Ask about it. I call it a foxCot. It was a cross between and Fox and a Coyote. Very few but legal to hunt in Montana. They kind of look the mix of the two. 😁🤣
 
I do, I have tried to message SWE123 directly, but I don't see that function available. I have been looking to get a .338 Kleinguenther as I used to shoot my grandfather's, but it was stolen from my uncle's truck and I've been trying to find a replacement and have not had any luck finding one over the last year.
Hate that when it happens. I lost one that was stolen a great many years ago. It was my first 300H&H Mag. That had gotten me into reloading at age 14.
 
Hate that when it happens. I lost one that was stolen a great many years ago. It was my first 300H&H Mag. That had gotten me into reloading at age 14.
It's awful, especially because you've got to figure they probably sold it for $100 at a pawn shop. If you have any suggestions of where I could look I'm all ears. I've kept an eye on Gunbroker, TX guntrader, and even reached out to KDF even though their now out of business.
 
It's awful, especially because you've got to figure they probably sold it for $100 at a pawn shop. If you have any suggestions of where I could look I'm all ears. I've kept an eye on Gunbroker, TX guntrader, and even reached out to KDF even though their now out of business.
it's been gone for 30 yrs or more.
 
Joe,

I am not sure about this, but if your message count goes up a bit, you might then have the option of clicking on a user's name and seeing where you can start a private conversation with them. That might enable you to reach swe123 who had the type of rifle you were interested in.

Others are no doubt more knowledgeable about this than me. I do not know what the threshold limit on messages for starting a conversation might be.

WyoWind
 
Jaime, This question is bringing back lots of fond memories of my first centerfire rifle. it was an old pre-64 338 win mag Win m-70.. it was a loner from the ranch I was working at. no one wanted it, except me. we all had our rifles to work with. I loaded 165 grain Barnes X for deer, 225 for tan color faze bear, and 250 for big bears. in those days I shot nothing but 338 Win Mag and nothing but Barnes slugs.. do not ask me why.. The whimsy of youth is all I can say. the 165 grain slugs at 250 yards was to say the least devastating on deer. you hit them in the neck, shoulder, heart/lungs.. they all immediately stopped, fell over dead and hardly twitched. something I happen to like. Never let anyone tell you any differently the 338 Win mag is one of the most versatile rounds on the planet even before they brewed up 300 grain recipes for the case. I have plans to rebarrel my 338 Win Mag to a 1:8" twist barrel so I can shoot everything from 165 to 300 grain slugs. I might just have to buy another 338 W/M to rebarrel that one. since I have a perfectly wonderful Rem 700 in 338 W/M. This time I think I will go back to my roots.. Win M-70 26" 1:8" twist 0.625"-0.650" muzzle, lightweight fiberglass stock, 1-6X32MM Leupold VX6 or 3-15X40MM VX-5HD.
You won't need to rebarrel for those heavier weight .338 bullets.
The standard 10" twist will stabilize everything up to 300 grains which were offerred in the original factory.loads.
I am regularly shooting 265gn and 285gn bullets in mine as well as the usual lighter weights.
 
With elk I have seen several brought down by 338. If wounded they seem to leave a better blood trail. Smaller rifle calibers don't open up as big a wound channel. Just enough bigger to do the job for whatever reason. The elks hair seem to plug up the hole and cut down on the blood trail. Not my elk, but others I have track all day only to loose them in the fall leaves in late afternoon or early evening. I hate losing animals even if they are not mine to start with. I try to make sure that I have a good shot and rested. I hate standing shots,and have seen more misses than hits by others. So the 338 Win Mag has become my go to rifle for big game. I am having another 338 being built with a 26" barrel and a brake. It will be interesting to see what I can get in velocity out of it. I getting 3230 out of my 338 presently, and almost the same hole at 100 yds. I like 26" barrel and hoping to get that velocity but with H4350 powder. My late friend and I couldn't get to what we could with 760 powder in his 24" barrel, weather effects the 760 more that the H4350.
SSS
Mike
Win 760 is great with the lighter bullets. I get 3160fps from 185gn TTSX's which adds a lot of versatility. 24" barrel.
 
It's common for people to use the .375 H&H for African plains game including the smaller antelope, and that cartridge doesn't destroy them... but they're using a typical 275 to 300 grain bullet, not a 250 grain bullet. No reason a .338 with elk-capable bullets should do more damage. I'd be a little wary about using bullets under 200 grains for close in shooting unless you are sure you'll be making those broadside lung shots and not have to deal with a shoulder. A 180 grain bullet will be sizzling out of the .338, and within 100 yards will be more destructive if you hit the shoulder blade... all that energy is going to do something.

I like a well-designed 225 grains for the .338 as more than enough for deer and elk at any reasonable (don't get offended, think 'traditional, which means 400-450 yards or less). Shoots pretty flat, hits very hard, not too destructive but certainly destructive enough. The Goldilocks bullet. I have a case of Winchester 230 gr FailSafe ammo from my dealer days, and it will do if I will do. Hornady loads a 230 gr ELD-X at around 2800 ft/sec and that's plenty for deer and elk out to at least 700 yards. I like the sentiment of using one load (cartridge, bullet) out of a big game rifle instead of trying to optimize unnecessarily, and IMO this is the sweet spot bullet weight-wise for the cartridge.

I personally find the .338 Win Mag is a surprisingly comfortable cartridge to shoot, more so than a .300 Win Mag.
 
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