I got my order in from DE right after the first of the new year. I have been pleased with the consistency and toughness of this brass. I would like future Bertrum Brass users to know that my batch was on the thin side. So if you are getting a chamber cut and will be using Bertrum, take that into consideration. From my findings Bertrum is around .003 thinner than Nosler Brass and I had to drop down to a 361 bushing. Once again great brass, just an FYI from my findings.