Update, talked to the guys over at CBW and they gave me some insight. As best I can remember, this one has wider grooves, 6 grooves, tight bore and they have tricks from the neck to several inches down the bore and apparently they have been doing them for lots of years. Nice guys and spent over 45 minutes on the phone with them. I am ordering 2 more barrels while they have that cutter since they can guarantee me the same cutter. They make their own cutters and only replace when they have to so these next 2 will be with the same one. They started talking in language that I could not follow, that is about all I can remember. I will say that it is nice to go to a smith that does it all in house, they make everything in house. Not many guys say that they can rifle a piece of round material into a barrel, they are gonna get the go-ahead for the daughters 6x47 in the next couple of weeks in their left hand controlled round feed action. Now to find a purple camo scheme for hers????