BHP9
Well-Known Member
I think you need to tell that to my "70's Rem 700. I has about 9000rds through the barrel and will still do a 1/4", 5rd group when I do my part. All ammo sized with small base dies.
-
If you are being asked to change your password, and unsure how to do it, follow these instructions. Click here
308 military brass
- Thread starter GUNNNN
- Start date
Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum
I think you need to tell that to my "70's Rem 700. I has about 9000rds through the barrel and will still do a 1/4", 5rd group when I do my part. All ammo sized with small base dies.
Thanks to Dogface 368 and Wrenches. I have begun to use a SB die for our son's Browning .270 BAR. Hitherto, I've just used standard base RCBS dies for that. He hasn't tested the new rounds yet to see whether he notices a difference. When preparing LC brass for my old Remington .308, I've been doing the same as Wrenches, except that I use a Lee Universal decapping die, swage with a lever-operated RCBS swaged, and uniform the pocket with a Sinclair device. I do appreciate all you thoughtfulness and the
courtesy of your recommendations.
courtesy of your recommendations.
Frank Kalisz
Well-Known Member
It's funny how we disagree about small base dies.. I suggest that you at least try your regular full-length die and see if it chambers before you throw money at a small base die
Steves1911
Well-Known Member
Just did 500 once fired mil lc brass. Rcbs fl die and imperial sizing wax. I run it through sizer rotate 180deg and run it again. No problems with fitting in any of my rifles even the ar10s.
I've heard good things about several auto lubes and Imperial wax. But, when I picked up my RCBS gear about 40 years ago, I also got some RCBS Case Lube and I'm still using it. Maybe not the latest and the best, and it's slow, but it still works for me.
GatorTrapper
Well-Known Member
Except for extreme applications like this, Hornady One Shot does everything and is far less messy than pads and gooey lubes.
Also dipping the neck in dry lube is a good idea.
Also dipping the neck in dry lube is a good idea.
DUSTY NOGGIN
Well-Known Member
capona
Well-Known Member
I tend to use a SB Xdie now days for my Bula xm21 that has a tight chamber. The SB die seems to avoid the occasional misfire due to not being fully seated and bolt mugs locked.
Not having to trim , then Cham / debur is the reason I like the SB X die for my M14/21/25's.
the nice thing about using a SB die for semi auto , specifically the RCBS SB X die is you only have to trim the first time. The brass won't grow beyond where you set the mandrel.
Not having to trim , then Cham / debur is the reason I like the SB X die for my M14/21/25's.
capona
Well-Known Member
I haven't seen any performance difference between using a FL vs SB die for semi auto's.
I personally toss those brass after it's 4th reload (5th firing).
But there are those I know that go 8 reloads.
So I don't know about brass longevity factors with SB dies and semi auto's .
I personally toss those brass after it's 4th reload (5th firing).
But there are those I know that go 8 reloads.
So I don't know about brass longevity factors with SB dies and semi auto's .
Scott Wagner
Member
I've noticed that the primer pockets of Lake City .308 brass are a bit deeper than commercial brass.
There have been more than a few rounds that would not fire in my bolt actions.
There have been more than a few rounds that would not fire in my bolt actions.
Wrenches
Well-Known Member
I only have Full Length dies for all of my cartridges. I have Wilson case gauges and I run all my resized brass through them. Never have found one that would not fit the case gauge. This is 60 plus years of reloading. I also shoot several Smith Enterprise's forged M-14s rifles and never a problem. I also own and shoot many M1's in 30-06 and 7.62 Navy conversions. Never needed a SB die for any reason, and never called for an alibi in any match, sanctioned or not, due to a round not chambering. SB dies over work the brass, and are not needed when FL dies size the brass to perfectly fit SAAMI case gauges. Save your money and buy regular FL dies.
capona
Well-Known Member
What full length die do you use for your M-14? I've been using Forster FL but was thinking of trying RCBS.
I find that cases that drop into wilson gauges will not drop always into a Sheridan gauge.
The Sheridan is Saami spec for case diameter.
The wilson doesn't check case body diameter.
And that open cut Sheridan gauge shows you exactly where the issue is.
And it's that extra bit that can cause an issue with some tight m14 chambers.
But every chamber is different. Some guys never have issues. My Bula xm21 is tight and I need that extra room for that particular Rifle. Probably just a result of getting chambers tighter for greater accuracy with rifles designed for battle, not accuracy.
Last edited:
Wrenches
Well-Known Member
I use Redding dies. I chamber my own barrels for my M-14 rifles and I use a JGS built Palma spec reamer for chambers which are very tight in both body and throat areas.
Laelkhunter
Well-Known Member
From what I remember from years ago, the Small Base resizing die was recommended when you are reloading for Browning BAR rifles, and lever action rifles. I am not sure why, because the regular sizing die is supposed to resize the fired case back to factory unfired dimensions, which should chamber in most rifles anyway. If you can't get a new cartridge to chamber in your gun, you have more problems than needing a small base die. That's in most cases anyway, YMMV
Last edited:
