.308 at 1000 yards
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stomp442
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Yes you can but the 168 is not recommended for that distance. The 175 will work better.
Michael Eichele
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The 168 VLD will easily remain supersonic at beyond 1K at sea level assuming its above zero degrees F. And their starting out at 2750'sec or more.
There are MUCH better alternatives but yes, both will work just fine.
There are MUCH better alternatives but yes, both will work just fine.
Michael Eichele
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I figured my estimate was off, only tested them with light target loads out of a 22inch barrel. That's smoking along though!
I chose the Berger VLD hunting round because I wanted to use this round to hunt black tails in Oregon. The reason I'm using a .308 is because I had a friend say that this round can not be used for long range hunting. I don't plan on taking a elk out to 1000+ yards. But black tail deer at 600-800 yards in Oregon is long range. That is if you can find them at that range
J E Custom
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The 308 has won many 1000 yard and Palma matches with the 168 SMKs so any of the new high
BC bullets in that weight range can only be better IMO.
J E CUSTOM
BC bullets in that weight range can only be better IMO.
J E CUSTOM
+1 My Dad still swears by 168gr SMKs.
MudRunner2005
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I chose the Berger VLD hunting round because I wanted to use this round to hunt black tails in Oregon. The reason I'm using a .308 is because I had a friend say that this round can not be used for long range hunting. I don't plan on taking a elk out to 1000+ yards. But black tail deer at 600-800 yards in Oregon is long range. That is if you can find them at that range
If you have a 24-26" barrel with an 11.25 or 10" twist, I can recommend a very nice Berger 210 VLD load with Varget that still holds around 1,424 fps & 946 ft lbs of energy @ 850 yards, which should be more than enough to kill a deer. At 1K it's still holding 1,297 fps, and 784 ft lbs. That certainly ain't your grandpappy's old slow .308 right there. That's what that new technology can do.
J E Custom
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My guess would be that the 20" barrel could not achieve enough velocity to stabilize the larger bullets.
My 40x match rifle has a 1 in 12 twist and it likes/needs velocity to shoot well.
J E CUSTOM
Putting a 1-10 twist in a 20inch barrel doesn't make any sense. They should have put a 1-12 in a 20" because your not going to get any velocity out of anything more than 168grs. You need a 12 twist for the lighter bullets which would make sense in a shorter barrel. A 1-10 is only good for really heavy slugs, so pointless in a short barreled rifle.
MudRunner2005
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If that is the case, then why do they use a 1:7 twist for the .300 Blackout round shooting 210-220gr subsonics in 7" to 16" barrels?
Makes you think...And sometimes some of the "laws" of reasoning don't make any sense, and don't always follow like they're supposed to.
