Sorry the sst did what it was suppose to expanded well weight with dry blood was 124.? Opened up & mushroomed nice just no exit ...yea first elk I shot didn't want it to be first elk I track & loose after examing sec shot was a waste but better safe than sorry ... I dunno what case. To go with I live in ny 308 will drop any thing here but when I travel I'm thinking I want a bigger case may be 338 open to suggestions of what others have shot elk with & what damage was done to animal