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2019 Saturday deer opener PA.

Eh i agree with you to some extent. Just like crossbows allowed every idiot with a camo sweatshirt to suddenly have their stinky loud *** in the woods for a season that previously took year-round practice, dedication and true woodsmanship.

I also will miss the tradition and excitement of the weekend after thanksgiving but the first 2 days of rifle season on public ground were always a sh!tshow though if i remember correctly. My dad and i got into a lease and never looked back.

many people out west can't comprehend the horrific pressure that deer get in the heavily populated areas of PA on saturdays. Traditionally, monday openers made it a choice: am I going to use that vacation day for opening day deer hunting, or am I one of those people who values something else as more important, like using it for sleeping off hangovers after Eagles SNF games. I always chose the deer hunting, and appreciated less people in the woods. The first week, deer would usually keep coming out during daylight hours. After the first Saturday and massive ****show that hordes of people turned deer season into, those natural patterns stopped, and it became a case of the deer holding tight unless they were getting pushed, or else coming out on their own after dark.

So are the PAGC idiots going to allow sensible nighttime hunting now, to compensate for the disaster they will create? You can bet they wont. Doesn't matter if you have mega-expensive optics that could do the job. Everything they do is geared for the lowest common denominator, because that is their speed. So PA will become a see-nothing hunting state, or else a push-em-and-blast-away-at-the-fleeing-tails state, just like the FUdds want.

At this rate, PA might as well import some PETA hipsters from Berkley to dictate hunting laws.
 
I for one I am all for a Saturday opener and could care less if someone wants to hunt with a semi auto rifle. It will for sure get more people in the woods which will get the deer stirred up and moving. To me this is a good thing.

Sorry riflehunter if you can take Saturday off work but I am sure there are more guys in the state that couldn't take Monday off. We have to remember there are more than just a handful of hunters in the state. Sounds to me you are a stump hunter so if people are stumbling through the woods, they should run some deer by you are some point. So get up early, get in there, find your stump, and wait. Some "D-bag" or "moron" might chase one to you.

As for tradition, the "whitetail industry" and hunting for a big number ruined the deer hunting long before there was a Saturday opener in PA.
 
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I for one I am all for a Saturday opener and could care less if someone wants to hunt with a semi auto rifle. It will for sure get more people in the woods which will get the deer stirred up and moving. To me this is a good thing.

Sorry riflehunter if you can take Saturday off work but I am sure there are more guys in the state that couldn't take Monday off. We have to remember there are more than just a handful of hunters in the state. Sounds to me you are a stump hunter so if people are stumbling through the woods, they should run some deer by you are some point. So get up early, get in there, find your stump, and wait. Some "D-bag" or "moron" might chase one to you.

As for tradition, the "whitetail industry" and hunting for a big number ruined the deer hunting long before there was a Saturday opener in PA.
My old and feeble mind was able to comprehend all you said till the last paragraph.
Could you expand upon what the "whitetail industry" and hunting for the big number mean in more detail?
 
I for one I am all for a Saturday opener and could care less if someone wants to hunt with a semi auto rifle. It will for sure get more people in the woods which will get the deer stirred up and moving. To me this is a good thing.

Sorry riflehunter if you can take Saturday off work but I am sure there are more guys in the state that couldn't take Monday off. We have to remember there are more than just a handful of hunters in the state. Sounds to me you are a stump hunter so if people are stumbling through the woods, they should run some deer by you are some point. So get up early, get in there, find your stump, and wait. Some "D-bag" or "moron" might chase one to you.

As for tradition, the "whitetail industry" and hunting for a big number ruined the deer hunting long before there was a Saturday opener in PA.

sounds like you are one of those casual hunters who never scout, don't place a stand according to deer movements, and just stumble around across property lines and blast at the fleeing tails. This saturday thing is custom made for you. congrats.
 
Yobuck what I mean by whitetail industry is they have turn this tradition that a lot of people grow up with into a money maker. There are a lot of lil Trinkets that are put on the market to flat out just make money. And trail cams that send you a picture on your phone give me a break. All the Whitetail hunting television shows have not been a big help to Whitetail hunting tradition either

And hunting for a big number I am talking about those guys you hunt for a big buck only. They are just looking for that big scoring rack. These are the guys who will shame some kid down on his or her below average buck till the remove their post or stop talking about it all together. Not what we need to keep young people hunting and tradition alive.
 
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sounds like you are one of those casual hunters who never scout, don't place a stand according to deer movements, and just stumble around across property lines and blast at the fleeing tails. This saturday thing is custom made for you. congrats.

Well you could say that I don't scout very often but I do some casual scouting. And I only bow hunt from a stand. I for sure have blasted at some tails.

I can tell you I will not be hunting the first day as it is the first day of Maryland buck season. I would rather buy the nonresident license there so I can kill more than one buck. So I guess I will wait till the second Saturday to hunt pa.
 
Yobuck what I mean by whitetail industry is they have turn this tradition that a lot of people grow up with into a money maker. There are a lot of lil Trinkets that are put on the market to flat out just make money. And trail cams that send you a picture on your phone give me a break.

And hunting for a big number I am talking about those guys you hunt for a big buck only. They are just looking for that big scoring rack. These are the guys who will shame some kid down on his or her below average buck till the remove their post or stop talking about it all together. Not what we need to keep young people hunting and tradition alive.

So you complain about guys who only target nice bucks but your avatar is a picture of you with a nice rack buck? Which you obviously didnt even shoot in this state, because you shot it suppressed. so you went out of state to target a trophy buck. How is that any different than the guys you are refering to?

I target trophy bucks and go out of state to hunt for trophy bucks, im not ashamed of it. And im not a hypocrite about it either. Its the natural genesis of a hunters once he has a few bucks under his belt in my opinion
 
So you complain about guys who only target nice bucks but your avatar is a picture of you with a nice rack buck? Which you obviously didnt even shoot in this state, because you shot it suppressed. so you went out of state to target a trophy buck. How is that any different than the guys you are refering to?

I target trophy bucks and go out of state to hunt for trophy bucks, im not ashamed of it. And im not a hypocrite about it either. Its the natural genesis of a hunters once he has a few bucks under his belt in my opinion

No sir I do not complain or say your way is wrong and shouldn't be aloud. If that's the way you hunt go for it. That's just not how I prefer to hunt. I may not agree with everything someone does or the way they go about hunting. But I will accept it because if we fight among ourselves over small things, we give the anti hunting people a place to get there foot in.

As for the buck on my avatar it was the first one to walk out. I didn't target it or even know he was in the area. Followed a doe out in to the corn field and I shot him. Not the biggest one or smallest one I have shot but I am proud of him all the same. I respect all the animals I harvest they give there life for me to have a lil meat and a lil fun.

As for the can
https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.p...24/hunting-with-silencers-in-pa-is-legal/amp/
 
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You guys following the Sunday hunting bill?

I am, and I'm still annoyed that they revised it from giving the PGC control of all the Sundays to only 14 of them, to 7 finally down to 3. I'm pretty sure they slow walked it back so that the legislature still has some control over the PGC. Those greedy politicians are probably salivating at the thought of getting their hands on the PGC $72 Million surplus fund and want any leverage they can get.
 
3 days is something. We(NC) are up to private land is legal but can't hunt on public yet.
 
As I said above I personally don't like the bill because I believe it is a breadcrumb to get the Sunday hunting crowd to shut up and go away. I support the legislature giving total control of the seasons to the game Commission and this bill is simply a way for them to maintain control.
 
Saw this listed as a similar thread on the PA doe tag thread so I figured I'd pop in and reread to see if any opinions have changed.

So now that we are coming up on our fourth season of the Saturday opener plus the third year with the Sunday opener and concurrent buck and doe for two weeks how is everyone feeling about the changes?

While I do like the extra hunting time with a rifle the general consensus at camp is that it definitely feels much more rushed than it used to. We all live 3 hours from our camp so we end up leaving around 5 or 6am on Friday morning in order to have enough time to get everything up and squared away before hunting on Saturday. Then it's 3 straight days of hunting before we spend a day butchering and head home, there really isn't much of a chance to slow down and relax like we used to as we are running from Thanksgiving morning until Tuesday night.

Additionally during the past 4 years I met my now wife and her family does their Thanksgiving on Saturday afternoon only half an hour from camp. Prior to the change I would have been able to join them but not now as it was close to 9pm by the time we got all the deer quartered and cleaned up.

On the plus side with the change back to the concurrent seasons we are back to killing deer like we used to and have had double digit opening weekends since the change back.

Personally now that it is an option I would prefer a Sunday opener, it allows for a weekend hunting day but also takes some of the pressure off the guys heading up to camp and giving them a chance to go up and get settled in before the opener.
 
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