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2 Wolves in 2 Days - Ontario

When you guys talk about animals showing up having been tagged somewhere else it always makes me think of our saskatchewan polar bear that made the news.

2 guys were fishing up in northern Saskatchewan and there was a bear in the water. They noticed it had a whiteish colored head and all of a sudden...this bear starts swimming towards the boat. So they started trolling away from it after they got some photos. The entire time they were like... that's not a black bear... what the??? So they sent off the pictures and video to a couple of polar bear experts, who... confirmed that it was indeed a polar bear.

When the experts were asked what would a polar bear be doing in Saskatchewan considering it would have come from the Hudson Bay area which is 330 miles away roughly. The experts said... well we figure he looked left... then looked right... and went... I'll go left today! And just started walking!!!

And wolves will travel anywhere IF they know/think that there is food there!!!
 
Playtimefun said:
When you guys talk about animals showing up having been tagged somewhere else it always makes me think of our saskatchewan polar bear that made the news.

2 guys were fishing up in northern Saskatchewan and there was a bear in the water. They noticed it had a whiteish colored head and all of a sudden...this bear starts swimming towards the boat. So they started trolling away from it after they got some photos. The entire time they were like... that's not a black bear... what the??? So they sent off the pictures and video to a couple of polar bear experts, who... confirmed that it was indeed a polar bear.

When the experts were asked what would a polar bear be doing in Saskatchewan considering it would have come from the Hudson Bay area which is 330 miles away roughly. The experts said... well we figure he looked left... then looked right... and went... I'll go left today! And just started walking!!!

And wolves will travel anywhere IF they know/think that there is food there!!!
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Humans are stupid if they think they can control boundaries for animals.
 
bluedog69 said:
The wolves in the UP were put there by the feds. USFWS. The MI DNR would like to hunt them but every time the feds have tried to turn management back over to the state the major environmental wacko groups sue which then locks it up in court cases for decades.
There are those that want wolves back in all 48 states. They are the ones suing and probably in control of the USFWS. Federal elections matter. We need to get people elected who will correct such things.
A friend of mine is in banking. We were talking about the intentional flooding of the MO River. He said that about 12% of the budget of the Army Corp of Engineers went to hydrologists. The other 78% was now environmentalists. Crazy stuff anymore.
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Then hunt them but don't say anything 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
I'm way down here in TX, about 90 miles inland from the coast. About 20 years ago (seems odd that it was that long ago) my ex wife's horse was killed. She sent photos of the horse asking people what they thought killed it. It had clear, parallel claw marks from its front shoulders, down the back, and down the rear haunches. TPWD came out and said a pack of dogs ran it into a fence :/ The town she lives in has less than 200 people in it. It's barely a town. There's no pack of dogs. The marks looked like a big cat had jumped on it's back and tried to drag it down. They asked the game warden about it being a mountain lion. Nah... they aren't in Texas. Big Bend NP has them. I've seen the tracks down in the desert and up in the high Chisos when I visit there. There's a video of a Mountain Lion taking a deer down up in the Chisos. Big cats (Cougar, Mountain Lion, whatever your want to call it) show up on game cameras from time to time. So do big black cats. The final proof for me came last year. I was driving the backroads around some rice fields, maybe 5-10 miles from where the horse was killed, coming home from the range I shoot at. I turned west on about 3 miles of straight dirt road and saw something running away from me 1/8 mile or so ahead of me. It was yellowish tan and both rear feet moved forward together, like a cat. I sped up to get a better look but it cut into the high Johnson grass next to a big irrigation canal and disappeared. It was big. I stopped where it disappeared into the grass. My dumb-etc didn't (A) get out and look for tracks (I liked it inside my metal and glass box) and (B) pick up the DSLR with a 200mm lens on it to try to get a photo of it or tracks. I've talked to people that farm down there and work in the rice fields. They've seen them.
So when a wildlife department professional says, nope, that's impossible... I check the yep, that's what they saw box. Animals go where they can and want to go.
 
Mike6158 said:
I'm way down here in TX, about 90 miles inland from the coast. About 20 years ago (seems odd that it was that long ago) my ex wife's horse was killed. She sent photos of the horse asking people what they thought killed it. It had clear, parallel claw marks from its front shoulders, down the back, and down the rear haunches. TPWD came out and said a pack of dogs ran it into a fence :/ The town she lives in has less than 200 people in it. It's barely a town. There's no pack of dogs. The marks looked like a big cat had jumped on it's back and tried to drag it down. They asked the game warden about it being a mountain lion. Nah... they aren't in Texas. Big Bend NP has them. I've seen the tracks down in the desert and up in the high Chisos when I visit there. There's a video of a Mountain Lion taking a deer down up in the Chisos. Big cats (Cougar, Mountain Lion, whatever your want to call it) show up on game cameras from time to time. So do big black cats. The final proof for me came last year. I was driving the backroads around some rice fields, maybe 5-10 miles from where the horse was killed, coming home from the range I shoot at. I turned west on about 3 miles of straight dirt road and saw something running away from me 1/8 mile or so ahead of me. It was yellowish tan and both rear feet moved forward together, like a cat. I sped up to get a better look but it cut into the high Johnson grass next to a big irrigation canal and disappeared. It was big. I stopped where it disappeared into the grass. My dumb-etc didn't (A) get out and look for tracks (I liked it inside my metal and glass box) and (B) pick up the DSLR with a 200mm lens on it to try to get a photo of it or tracks. I've talked to people that farm down there and work in the rice fields. They've seen them.
So when a wildlife department professional says, nope, that's impossible... I check the yep, that's what they saw box. Animals go where they can and want to go.
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Interesting story and observations, but I have to say that game wardens are not always (usually not) wildlife authoritarians. Wildlife scientists are the experts to generally rely on for species identification and information, not wildlife enforces, in most cases. I am not sure where you are located, but from your description, it sounds like maybe Calhoun county or further east. The most interesting part of your story to me is not "that mountain lions show up on game cameras from time to time", but that "so do big black cats". I (and many others) would sure like to see those photos or videos if they exists.
 
rm76 said:
Interesting story and observations, but I have to say that game wardens are not always (usually not) wildlife authoritarians. Wildlife scientists are the experts to generally rely on for species identification and information, not wildlife enforces, in most cases. I am not sure where you are located, but from your description, it sounds like maybe Calhoun county or further east. The most interesting part of your story to me is not "that mountain lions show up on game cameras from time to time", but that "so do big black cats". I (and many others) would sure like to see those photos or videos if they exists.
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NNE. I saw the tan butt end of what looked like a large cat a little west of Garwood last winter. 6-7 ish months ago. When I fly, I fly out of Calhoun county btw.

I spend a lot of time on the back roads between home (up near Schulenburg), Garwood, and Edna. I have family in Edna and near Vanderbilt. I like the blackland prairie's.

I've gone back to look for whatever the tan "thing" was numerous times (every time I go to the range, in El Campo, which is nearly every weekend). I have even looked for cattle just in case it was a calf but the width to height ratio was wrong for a calf. The tail was different. It was wider across the haunches and shorter. It was wide as tall, it was the wrong time of year for a young calf, and they don't run cows in that area. It was significantly different than anything I've ever seen. Honestly... I think it was much too wide across the haunches to have been a cougar. Which makes it even more odd. Of course that's based on a 50 yard estimation of an animal that was running directly away from me and that only lasted 20s at most. So all I can say is that I don't know what it was.

"I (and many others) would sure like to see those photos or videos if they exists."

Me too and that's a good point. What I should have written is I've heard that etc, etc.. Never seen it. The "claims" were made by people that live in the woods north of the rice fields of Garwood, 7-ish miles NNW of where I saw what I think was a big cat. The topic came back up at a recent family event and supposedly the stills and videos of the "black cat or cats" have been shared with different "experts"and they didn't say if the expert id'd it. I'm going to guess that they didn't confirm what, if anything, it was. A Google search nets absolutely nothing. Most people would post that kind of thing all over unsocial media.

I saw the horse. Each side had 4 long deep claw marks from the shoulders , withers, hips, all the way down past the dock. Also note - that happened at least 20 years ago. I might be able to get my hands on the photos but I doubt it. I didn't take any.
 

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