.2-.3 100 yard cold bore challenge

[Capt RB]

Capt RB, I get what you are saying and I agree. I have a couple of sporter rifles. But If I were to take the time to shoot them at longer ranges and learn from it. I could really become a better rifleman even with the equipment I have now.

Although some of those lessons might be easier to see on target with a rifle that does shoot little clusters at longer ranges.

In any case, money shouldn't keep me from improving with what I've got now. And learning a lot that I can use if I ever do fart diamonds.

Many lightweight soda straw barreled hunting rifles shoot far better than people think. The problem is they take far more concentration and perfection any flaw you have shows on target.
The paper plate was a week ago Saturday cold bore 620. I had a class and even though the survey tape at the target stands was laying still they were hitting right side of target. The range is flat to 480 then it goes up hill. At 620 the bullet is 60' off the floor of the range and had a 1-2mph l to r wind. I explained to the guys that there was a wind at the top of the trees slight but causing the right side hits. I told them that I should hit 4" right about 1 inch lower than the dot because there is a vertical element to the wind also. Held the dot and got lucky. I have alot of time shooting this range and mostly in less favorable conditions. However in hero conditions I can look like I know what I'm talking about. One of the guys using my 308 shot a 3/4" group at 480 and pulled his last shot at 650 to end up with a 4" group. The first 2 were 1 1/2 apart and he kinda flinched/moved his head on the last shot. None of the 4 shooters had ever shot past 100yds. They all made hits at 650 with their own rifles on the full size ipsc target.
In looking at your 200yd target you have more than enough accuracy to shoot a long way. 1.5moa sized targets and you would be gtg. If the rifle has too much recoil to self spot bring someone with you and a 22 to let the barrel cool

 

[Jon Bischof]

That's a mighty good shooting rifle

 

[Capt RB]

That's a mighty good shooting rifle

The paper plate was my 270 vangard the thought police stole my thought when I went to type that part lol It's that gnat like attention span I have at work

 

[Canhunter35]

Wanted to share this.
195tmk, 700yds, 13-17mph 3:00 wind. First shot I held 6moa, seen my miss in the snow, held 10 Moa and put these two shiny ones on the target. For some reason it flipped the pic 90degrees

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One thing I've noticed with heavier bullets compared to lighter bullets with the same bc, they seem more consistent on the target once you make the wind call.
Edited to add:
Bought some bipod spikes for Harris bipods, hawk hill and tactical supply, well worth the money, the gun sits so well it's amazing, wish I had bought them years ago

 

[Capt RB]

Did some drills at 300 today. Started out with 5 to 9 mph at 4o clock then it picked up after the first 5 I shot to 8 to 13 from 3to4. Held steady for an hour then swung from 3-4 to 6to7 as it slowed down for the last hour. Nw to a more north wind ie cold wind. 28 to 33f tor temp.
Drills were with rifle on the bench no mag open bolt. Pick it up on the timer get to prone load mag 1 shot stop. Looking for 15 seconds but have 30 for 5 times. I plot each shot with my spotter. I did this on 4x 8x 10x and 12x. The shoot n c is the 4x. 8x are touching 3 with 2 fliers. I had at least 1 flier each time on 10x and 12x. I had plenty of time but didn't use enough to be fundamentally sound for every shot. I wish they were all late in the group but they were not. I gaffed the first shot second twice and third and 4th on the potentially all in a hole plate.
This is a good drill and it doesn't overheat the barrel like many others. Plotting the shots with the spotter and keeping your book helps in fixing some of the basic mistakes
Load is LC 118lr 1x fired lee collet neck sized .0015 neck tension 43.1Rl15 cci200 168smk 2.820 nylon brush the neck
These are the first shot using the Forster ultra Mic seating die. I didn't have to straighten a single round for concentricity. I don't normally neck size but with the new seating die I wanted to see how straight and consistent the die was. I'm pleased to say the least.
Also the targets are turned for some reason. The staples are top bottom and the SHoot n c was with the numbers in the normal upright position. With the Gen IIXR reticle I cannot see the dot as it is subtended by the cross hair @ 300. Same for the EBR 2C even though it's an open dot (easier for more precision but I don't shoot well enough to take advantage like others)

 

[Tangent]

28* with 5mph wind
Sighting in new LRTS
Shooting prone on concrete with bipod & rear bag.
5-shot group ~0.47 MOA
(Stock is for sale - shameless plug)

 

[PredatorSlayer]

So I made it out to the range today. Top left is the cold clean bore shot. #2 is touching cold bore and then I think #3 was my fault. 0.63 MOA. This is with factory Hornady Precision hunter 6.5 PRC 143gr ELDX. Rifle is one of those crappy inaccurate Christensen Arms BA Tacticals with a garbage Leupold VX6HD 4-24x52 I am sure the group will tighten up a little bit with some handloads. The Match ammo shoots < .5 moa. Forgot to throw some in. Next time

 

[Jon Bischof]

Yeah there's no way you'll get me to believe that that Christiansen barrel shoots that bad

 

[Capt RB]

I was out today windy and no pics due to my phone going dead. Since h4350 is nowhere local to me and Rl19 is on every shelf I figured I'd try it out. Loaded up 50rds @45.5 for the 142smk and 147eldms ive pulled. I was at 2765fps with the 147s and 2771 with the 142s. The reason for the 2771 is all 3 were 2771 over the MS. The 147s were 3es with 2@ 2764 and 1 at 2767. I remounted my scope in new rings as the gun was put in an Ashbury Precision chassis this week. First shot was 480 and 3mils low adjusted and went to work. 555yds my dial was on 0 on the turret. Had 3 shots with the 147s 1/2" vertical in a 10to2 wind at 14to18mph. Less that 3 fingers wide. At 620 it swirls due to the treeline 147s centered the plates the 142s were tight together low left side. .2 up and held.2 on right side missed the shift and hit the bank where i was aiming. Saw the snow swirl to the left and centered the plate. At 650 15 for 15 with the 6.5 on the 8inch plate0-3 on the 4"er. The 308 was humbling at 650. I made all 3 head shots on the 2/3s ipsc 3 center chest. 3for 5 on the 8" and 0fer alot on the 4"er. Good practice though

 

[Mram10us]

Broke in my switchbarrel tcc today. Went in and ate dinner and decided to do a 5 shot group from the 308 with 155s at 130yds. The 7-08ai would not have qualified didn't like the 150eld

 

[GLTaylor]

Working up a new load for my 243AI with 83gr Sledge Hammers and R-16. I believe I'll quit here. 3455fps

 

[Jon Bischof]

Yep, you quit right there and order all the components you need to make about a thousand of those. Seriously.

Some might say, "It's only 83 grains!" But it is 83 grains at 3455 fps. That is screaming! Do you have any doubt about what the expansion of that hammer bullet will be on game at various ranges close and far? I would like to know.

 

[GLTaylor]

I shot my last deer (doe) this year with it. 204 yds, shoulder, through and through, ran 30 yds and piled up. Minimum meat damage- as i have come to expect from Hammers. All i shoot now in 4 rifles. Guess everybody can call me a fan boy. Don't care. They work!

 

[Jon Bischof]

GL Taylor, I prefer a bullet that expands up to twice diameter--but no more than that because I want an exit hole--yes, I want an exit hole even if the deer is DRT, because sometimes they aren't. And when they run a bit, I want an exit hole.

The hydrostatic shock of that Hammer bullet at that high an impact velocity has to be pretty damaging even if expansion doesn't attain twice diameter. So you can get away with 83 grains what most folks attain with 95-100 grains. Except that you can shoot a lot farther with confidence