Buffalobob
Well-Known Member
Congratulations Keven
Your description of hunting with your Dad and 7RMHB made me laugh. That was the way it was this Fall with my two kids. The girl is a great spotter with infinite patience while the boy just wants to get moving and chase something down.
Kirby builds really great hunting rifles. The ability of his smithed rifles to place bullet after bullet in the same spot under field conditions at extreme ranges always amazes me. It amazes me even more when it is me shooting.
Somehow that Luepold scope just keeps on killing animals. Always amazes me that people cannot take a lesson from success. There are scope that work and there are scopes that don't. Although, it would seem like it is time for you to get a new base with more cant in it.
Bullet performance – I have a few comments
1. As you demonstrate, it takes a trivial amount of time to take a few pictures of entrance and exit wounds to show what a bullet did so people can see for themselves. In your case you were up in deep snow way up a mountian and still got the pictures, yet we have seen other people who can't get a picture in an alfalfa field and write pages of excuses why they have no pictures.
2. A 300 grain bullet at 1410 yards breaks two shoulders of a cow elk and is retained under the hide. Momentum is zero at that point. The bullet appears to have at least 50% retained weight. This is very similar performance to other witnessed and verified shots at long range.
There was an article recently about elk wintertime coping mechanisms. The article stated that they are able to lower their metabolism such that they do not burn as much energy and give off as much heat. Thus they can get by on less food under colder temperatures. This would imply that their respiratory system is slowed down and that their circulatory system is slowed down. With such a slow system, it will take longer for an animal to either bleed to death of die of suffocation. With all of the hair it is possible to close off the wound so the lungs do not collapse and the animals still has partial lung capacity (this happened to me two years ago with an antelope). This allows the animal to keep up a slow supply of oxygen to the brain and muscles.
I had forgotten what a misery the Utah scrub oak could be. Those pictures bring back some memories of some gruesome hikes through that stuff.
Finally, there are some really great members on this forum who actually know a lot about long range hunting and are here to help people. Hopefully, I will draw out for this Fall and get to visit Utah for a while, but with less snow!
Congratulationson a really great series of shooting and some really wonderful pictures.
Your description of hunting with your Dad and 7RMHB made me laugh. That was the way it was this Fall with my two kids. The girl is a great spotter with infinite patience while the boy just wants to get moving and chase something down.
Kirby builds really great hunting rifles. The ability of his smithed rifles to place bullet after bullet in the same spot under field conditions at extreme ranges always amazes me. It amazes me even more when it is me shooting.
Somehow that Luepold scope just keeps on killing animals. Always amazes me that people cannot take a lesson from success. There are scope that work and there are scopes that don't. Although, it would seem like it is time for you to get a new base with more cant in it.
Bullet performance – I have a few comments
1. As you demonstrate, it takes a trivial amount of time to take a few pictures of entrance and exit wounds to show what a bullet did so people can see for themselves. In your case you were up in deep snow way up a mountian and still got the pictures, yet we have seen other people who can't get a picture in an alfalfa field and write pages of excuses why they have no pictures.
2. A 300 grain bullet at 1410 yards breaks two shoulders of a cow elk and is retained under the hide. Momentum is zero at that point. The bullet appears to have at least 50% retained weight. This is very similar performance to other witnessed and verified shots at long range.
There was an article recently about elk wintertime coping mechanisms. The article stated that they are able to lower their metabolism such that they do not burn as much energy and give off as much heat. Thus they can get by on less food under colder temperatures. This would imply that their respiratory system is slowed down and that their circulatory system is slowed down. With such a slow system, it will take longer for an animal to either bleed to death of die of suffocation. With all of the hair it is possible to close off the wound so the lungs do not collapse and the animals still has partial lung capacity (this happened to me two years ago with an antelope). This allows the animal to keep up a slow supply of oxygen to the brain and muscles.
I had forgotten what a misery the Utah scrub oak could be. Those pictures bring back some memories of some gruesome hikes through that stuff.
Finally, there are some really great members on this forum who actually know a lot about long range hunting and are here to help people. Hopefully, I will draw out for this Fall and get to visit Utah for a while, but with less snow!
Congratulationson a really great series of shooting and some really wonderful pictures.