cahunter805
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Congrats on a great shot and nice bull!
Curious do you check/drill the tips on the Berger's you shoot?
Curious do you check/drill the tips on the Berger's you shoot?
Shane- How tight is your Browning shooting? I'm starting to BR handload for an X Bolt LR Pro because it's a 1.5MOA gun with Hornady and other premium loads... love the ergonomics, but it's not anywhere near a sub MOA gun. Thx-I have 2 x-bolt hells canyon long ranges in 300 win mag and 7mm Remington mag and my friend has the x-bolt pro in 300 win mag. All guns shoot 1/4 MOA when hand loaded with bergers. 215 bergers for the 300s and 195 bergers for the 7mm Remington mag.
ratulations Brad, success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. This is how it's done, lots of practice and knowing your equipment. Your last comment about conditions being just right is spot on, knowing when not to pull the trigger is just as important and one of the hardest aspects to teach or overcome.
There's a canyon I hunt in every fall, but with the brush the options are sitting in the timber patches or long range across the canyon. One shot from my .300 WSM did the job on this bull. Rifle was built specifically for hunting this canyon by West Elk Precision in Grand Junction Colorado. Defiance Deviant Hunter XM action, Trigger Tech, Bartlien 3b barrel, Manners EH1 stock, Nightforce atacr 5-25x56 scope. Load is Berger 215 grain Hybrid over 65 grains RL26 amd Federal 215 primers. 2817 FPS. Last two 3-shot groups fired before the hunt to confirm ballistic inputs measured just under .5 MOA at 1317 yards. Kestrel 5700 AB says 1675 FPS and 1340 remaining energy. Shot was quartering and bullet entered behind the ribs traveling length-wise, going up through a rib and coming to rest in the forward end of a backstrap. Weight is 152.9 grains. The bullets are very accurate but I'm going to look for a similarly accurate load with a bullet rated for a lower impact velocity. Thinking 210 grain Nosler ABLR or 210 gr Berger HVLD
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Berger 215?! Its basically earned it's rep for killing big bulls and bucks at long ranges!Hec of a shot.Never thought a berger would stand up.I agree with the thought of the nosler long range Accubond of what I search. and hec of a nice Bull. That might be pressure cooker bull.
Just can't beat those Nightforce Scopes! Good job COBradThere's a canyon I hunt in every fall, but with the brush the options are sitting in the timber patches or long range across the canyon. One shot from my .300 WSM did the job on this bull. Rifle was built specifically for hunting this canyon by West Elk Precision in Grand Junction Colorado. Defiance Deviant Hunter XM action, Trigger Tech, Bartlien 3b barrel, Manners EH1 stock, Nightforce atacr 5-25x56 scope. Load is Berger 215 grain Hybrid over 65 grains RL26 amd Federal 215 primers. 2817 FPS. Last two 3-shot groups fired before the hunt to confirm ballistic inputs measured just under .5 MOA at 1317 yards. Kestrel 5700 AB says 1675 FPS and 1340 remaining energy. Shot was quartering and bullet entered behind the ribs traveling length-wise, going up through a rib and coming to rest in the forward end of a backstrap. Weight is 152.9 grains. The bullets are very accurate but I'm going to look for a similarly accurate load with a bullet rated for a lower impact velocity. Thinking 210 grain Nosler ABLR or 210 gr Berger HVLD
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I'd say that bullet you used was a complete failure and would NOT use it again for elk.There's a canyon I hunt in every fall, but with the brush the options are sitting in the timber patches or long range across the canyon. One shot from my .300 WSM did the job on this bull. Rifle was built specifically for hunting this canyon by West Elk Precision in Grand Junction Colorado. Defiance Deviant Hunter XM action, Trigger Tech, Bartlien 3b barrel, Manners EH1 stock, Nightforce atacr 5-25x56 scope. Load is Berger 215 grain Hybrid over 65 grains RL26 amd Federal 215 primers. 2817 FPS. Last two 3-shot groups fired before the hunt to confirm ballistic inputs measured just under .5 MOA at 1317 yards. Kestrel 5700 AB says 1675 FPS and 1340 remaining energy. Shot was quartering and bullet entered behind the ribs traveling length-wise, going up through a rib and coming to rest in the forward end of a backstrap. Weight is 152.9 grains. The bullets are very accurate but I'm going to look for a similarly accurate load with a bullet rated for a lower impact velocity. Thinking 210 grain Nosler ABLR or 210 gr Berger HVLD
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Only a failure at that impact velocity, and it sure didn't fail to kill the elk. Everyone expects different outcomes from a terminal ballistics perspective. Some want a mushroom found on the far hide. Some want an exit on a steep quartering angle or through dense bone, some want a Frangible bullet that shreds vitals, but we all want a quick humane death in a way that we can recover the animal. As such, complete failure it is not, although I do agree that it wouldn't generate confidence that I should take a 1100 plus yard shot again with that combo and impact velocity. I wonder how the 245 Berger would have fared. Or the 212 or heavier ELD-X. I just know I prefer impact velocities over 1800 FPS.I'd say that bullet you used was a complete failure and would NOT use it again for elk.
But that sumbitch will be good eating, and nice shooting
Good shot! For steel!There's a canyon I hunt in every fall, but with the brush the options are sitting in the timber patches or long range across the canyon. One shot from my .300 WSM did the job on this bull. Rifle was built specifically for hunting this canyon by West Elk Precision in Grand Junction Colorado. Defiance Deviant Hunter XM action, Trigger Tech, Bartlien 3b barrel, Manners EH1 stock, Nightforce atacr 5-25x56 scope. Load is Berger 215 grain Hybrid over 65 grains RL26 amd Federal 215 primers. 2817 FPS. Last two 3-shot groups fired before the hunt to confirm ballistic inputs measured just under .5 MOA at 1317 yards. Kestrel 5700 AB says 1675 FPS and 1340 remaining energy. Shot was quartering and bullet entered behind the ribs traveling length-wise, going up through a rib and coming to rest in the forward end of a backstrap. Weight is 152.9 grains. The bullets are very accurate but I'm going to look for a similarly accurate load with a bullet rated for a lower impact velocity. Thinking 210 grain Nosler ABLR or 210 gr Berger HVLD
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