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+1 I got a Kirby Allen Painkiller Muzzle break on 338AX and it recoils like a 243.
No sir/mam. It's over 1600 FPS and just over 800 ft lbs energy. More than enough for elk. These numbers are calculated at 6000 ft above sea level where I hunt elk.
I can respect that. Your shooting what you are comfortable with. Just like I said. Nothing wrong with that.I like what someone else said on here about they don't show the miss haps on the outdoor programs. I have seen that video and a 7mm Mag is more than capable of killing an elk but I am with you. If a 1000 yards is the intended range the power of a 338 would be my choice over the trajectory of a flat seven. Watched a guy shoot a moose with a 28 nosler at 600 broadside, behind the shoulder, it took three shots to expire the animal. The bull acted like the first shot was a bee sting. I just don't know how ethical it is to shoot something with a caliber that lacks the minimum needed energy for that animal at a given range. 338s for the most part take to long to get there, which is another issue. I personally would most likely opt for a fast 30. 300 RUM etc.
The op stated he was looking at a 338 Lapua but if it was going to double as a hunting and long range rig, I would opt for the 338 RUM, which is what I did. It is my first choice for all things Alaska.
In full disclosure I have never been a fan of the 7mm rem. It is my least favorite cartridge. Don't own one and most likely never will. Got a friend who owns one and talks about it all the time. He has killed everything on planet earth with that thing. A Browning BAR he has owned for 40 years. Guy is the Jack O of the 7mm rem and doesn't mind letting you know.Killed way more than I ever have, but like me never found the need to shoot anything beyond about 650 yards, just because we can. Any way he is the reason I don't own a 7mm rem that and I prefer the 300 WM. A little rivalry goes along way!
I want own a 7mm rem! Ever!!! That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
It's the principle of the thing! A man has got to stand for something!
Totally agree!! Shoot what your comfortable with. 338 RUM is a awesome round.
Interesting. I used several ballistic calculators and plugged in 140gr Nosler Partition-BC 0.49 leaving @ 2800fps and velocity at 1250yds average across 3 calculators is 1092 fps & 372 ft. lbs. energy-sea-level. Reran calculations at 6000 ft. elevation and velocity is 1296 fps & 523 ft. lbs. energy. Just curious, what variables your plugging in and or how are you calculating and arriving at your numbers ?
Use 140 Grain Berger VLDs 2975 FPS .600 G1 BC. NP are junk at long range. They need very high velocity for expansion. At least that's my experience with them. The 260 Rem is about 150 ishFPS faster than the CM. A lot of people will argue with this and that's ok. " I don't have the magic pixie dust Reloader 26. But when I hand load using H4350 and H4831 SC the 260 holds just under 150 ish FPS over the CM both rifles with same baller lengths. That's just my experience. My 6.5 CM I can only get 2870 FPS. I can get 3020 FPS from my 260 but the accuracy drops some. So I stick with the 2975 FPS. In that case it's only 100 FPS faster than the 6.5 CM.
Makes sense. I just grabbed 140gr NP to run numbers. The BC difference alone makes a big difference, thanks for explaining.
Yes sir. People have their go to bullets because they have had good experiences with them. So they will go to that bullet and the data will not make sense. I've done that plenty of times myself. I just want everyone to have a good hunt.
I I may ask...why do they not let you use a brake in F-Class? Is it because it bothers the other shooter beside you or some old type rule that needs to be maybe changed?I would not want to carry a 338 any where any distance any time any way.!
