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What is long range hunting and what is hunted?
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I read the other day that long range hunting is when the critters are so far away the meat will spoil before you can get to it, clean and dress it!
I live in northern Utah. Every animal i harvest ends up with the same trip out. That entails quartering, deboning, and packing out in trips on my back. I ain't no spring chicken either. I'm not sure I understand fully why "your" position is the only right one. I have guns that shoot cold bore clean barrel shots into same groups as cold fouled bore shots. Some (most) don't. If I know I'm going hunting, I take the gun in the condition it shoots best. No amount of one man says fits, nor should it.
Pack, Atv, capstan winch, backhoe, telehandler, snowmobile, horse, neighbor kids. We use anything we can to make it easier.
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So, M118, are you doing all of this with an issued M24 as your moniker suggests? Or the M version M40. When one is eighteen, all of those physical standards in training certainly apply. must be met and maintained. But that's all you do in that MOS, it's your job and you get paid to train and shoot as opposed to paying to shoot with often very little training, at least at that level. I presume that you still maintain that very high bar of physical capability since that's the standard you established. Unless you are still active duty and training daily, spending inordinate amounts of time down range with your spotter and sending lots of M118 effectively on target as a core component of your job, I seriously question whether you can attain those physical levels of which you spoke. Of course I don't know how old you are, if you're still active, retired or really anything about you other than what I read in your replies to the post and while I agree with most of what you stated from a technical standpoint, having maintained similar records to annotate every shot from each rifle with it's own book from plot to shot, clean cold bore is always the standard from which all subsequent shots are measured. One cold bore shot is often all you get and one has to be confident in one's skills, ammo, the rifle and that collective ability to perform. With that said, in the same engagement, subsequent rounds are not clean cold bore and must also be on target. As stated, many of the best competitive shooters fire at least one fouling shot prior to shooting for score, so there is something to be aid for both and in the hunting world, confidence in your ability to place an effective round on target ay whatever range one's skillset allows is the most important thing, clean cold bore or fouled.
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Rick Richard
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You can tell when hunting season is over and boredom sets in.because here we go again with "What is Long Range Hunting".
Long range for me is based on what I'm carrying and where I am.
In Michigan woods, long range is beyond about 130 yards when carrying my 3030 or 450 Bushmaster.
Out west in the antelope fields, long range is getting beyond 550 or 600. All shots are prone with high power scopes on top of high power rifles.
Elk hunting in Colorado, long is getting past 400 due to compromised shooting positions and terrain.
In Michigan woods, long range is beyond about 130 yards when carrying my 3030 or 450 Bushmaster.
Out west in the antelope fields, long range is getting beyond 550 or 600. All shots are prone with high power scopes on top of high power rifles.
Elk hunting in Colorado, long is getting past 400 due to compromised shooting positions and terrain.
Huntaddict
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From a rifle ballistics perspective - long range IME and IMO begins at 500 yards.
Most modern rifle calibers with newer bullet types have fairly consistent DOPE charts to about 500 yards, within a few inches here and there...then everything begins to change on a more distinct and faster level and the variances get more pronounced with larger variability. The differences get more magnified.
LR from a shooter perspective on steel is 20% longer than your last hit. e.g. Hit 500 - try 600
LR from a hunter perspective on animals is 15-20% closer than your practice range. e.g. Hit 500 - shoot no more than 425
Animal size. Based on the data above - your ability to hit vitals should be consistent with your groupings at your max range.
slick Nick
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Hmmmm I think long range is an individual, each case scenario. Everytime we shoot at a distance that is in any way questionable as to the outcome, regardless of equipment at hand or ones own ability it is long range. Like all statements it's all clear as mud. Why is this always a topic has something happened to make you question a shot that was taken during buck fever or maybe a less than desirable out come after a shot and long blood trail. Things that make you say hmmmm.
Now back to my cigar and adult beverage.
Now back to my cigar and adult beverage.
Pokoki
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Great pics!
You have another one? If so... please pass it over...this could be a long one ....with a few White Lies thrown in !!
