284win Trail Boss 100g-115gr YOUTH LOADS

98s1lightning · Tuesday at 11:42 AM

Anybody run a 284win case w Trail Boss Powder over a 100gr-115gr Varmint bullet for plinking/Youth loads?

Curious if any real world experience

Reference used: A 243win case is published 100gr @ 1000fps to 1600fps (case holds approx 10gr less total)

Roughrice · Tuesday at 12:30 PM

Have you looked at load data for 110 or 120 grain bullets?
I'd think a starting point low charge load with a 110 HP or 120 soft point would be effective on game and pretty soft on recoil.

98s1lightning · Tuesday at 4:35 PM

Supersonic loads, even 22LR, anything that cracks, is loud for the kid

Bringing him up slow on noise and recoil, so he doesn't develop flinch or muzzle blast fears/bad habits

Bucklowery · Tuesday at 5:23 PM

Can you even find trail boss anywhere. I have not see it for couple years

Thanks

Buck

98s1lightning · Tuesday at 5:32 PM

Beats me, I haven't looked lately, hahahah

44ron85 · Tuesday at 6:11 PM

98s1lightning said:
Beats me, I haven't looked lately, hahahah

If you don't have any trailboss on the shelf I'd look at a different load. It's very hard to find and goes for crazy prices on the second hand market.

fseaman · Tuesday at 9:22 PM

I use Trail Boss for lots of things but not specifically the 284+100-115 bullet.

QL says it will make ~2000 with a 100. I don't have a 115 in my QL.

It would still be loud. It will still be supersonic.

I have done loads with a 30-06, 45-70, cowboy games 45LC and others. I love it for a black powder substitute or reduced loads for fun.

One of my most fun is a Winchester 1885 Highwall 45-70. "Quigley"

gun. Yeah, that is actually a Shiloh Sharps in 45-110 but that's not required to have fun with it.

If I get the TB found/unpacked, I'll try it but you'll probably have if figured out by then.

fseaman · Tuesday at 9:25 PM

https://www.handloadermagazine.com/reduced-rifle-loads#:~:text=Charges%20of%20H%2D4895%20and,257%20Roberts%2C%20(4)%20.

98s1lightning · Tuesday at 9:28 PM

H4895 is on my list too

Thank you guys

P7M13 · Tuesday at 9:35 PM

I use Unique and Clays International for reduced loads in 308 and 30-30.

sourdough44 · Wednesday at 1:49 AM

I admit your idea is viable, but it seems there are easier alternatives. Does the youth have to use the 284 Win? I mean, what about a 22 or 223 for familiarity shooting?

Back to the 284, one could drop to lower charges with Hodgdon's '60% rule' using H-4895. I have some modest 243 loads with light 55 grain bullets, close to zero recoil.

I've done some rifle rounds with slower handgun powders, mostly 2400 & 4227. These are powder puff loads, often to check out a new gun then start the sighting in process. There can be data in older manuals, possibly online, rather reputable. In large cases I often use a slight 'filler', Dacron stuffing. I've never had a problem, though once deviating from mainstream reloading, proceed with caution.

98s1lightning · Wednesday at 10:43 AM

We shoot the 22 short,.22LR, and 32-20 subs now

Moving on up soon

284win Trail Boss 100g-115gr YOUTH LOADS

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