Trail boss

[Rosebud]

Think lil gun would work?

No, you would create bomb! Black outs are basically A pistol cartridge sized case. Fill up a CM case with it and your rifle is toast.

 

[Shane Lindsey]

Tried trail boss in online muzzle loader couple of years ago. It worked pretty good unless you compressed it.shotgun primer would not set it off compressed. Trying to get cleaner burning powder than black or pryodex. Gave up and went back to pyrodex.

Derail...Blackhorn 209 is your friend...

OP, TrailBoss gives you case fill. That is what you are looking for. I wouldn't try anything that isn't listed unless you are going to stand behind a berm with a pull chord

 

[QuietTexan]

Think lil gun would work?

NO. That sounds absolutely terrifying.

I run about 7.5gn of Lil'Gun in 300 BLK, a case with ~19gn of H20 capacity. The 6.5CM has almost 3x the case capacity.

 

[quigley257]

I've wondered if this would fill any of the gaps left by TB... https://www.vihtavuori.com/powder/n32c-tin-star/

 

[Rosebud]

If you can't find trail boss just stay in the burn range in reloading manual for the CM.

 

[QuietTexan]

I've wondered if this would fill any of the gaps left by TB... https://www.vihtavuori.com/powder/n32c-tin-star/

Apparently VV dropped Tin Star last year.

Discontinued VV powders

Just read that the following VV powders are to be discontinued from the American market. VV-N105 Super Magnum N32C-Tin Star W-N160 N165 N170 24N21 20N29 N340 N350 3N37 3N38 N530

www.longrangehunting.com

 

[Shane Lindsey]

Yupp says it...Just no data

"It is also used for subsonic and blank loads"

 

[Rosebud]

Tin Star may be harder to find than TB. Does anyone know where to get it?

 

[Rosebud]

Apparently VV dropped Tin Star last year.

Discontinued VV powders

Just read that the following VV powders are to be discontinued from the American market. VV-N105 Super Magnum N32C-Tin Star W-N160 N165 N170 24N21 20N29 N340 N350 3N37 3N38 N530

www.longrangehunting.com

That explains why you don't see it or the other powders anywhere.

 

[cohunt]

You can use pistol powders BUT it's hard to find load data on them.

With pistol powders you cant fill the case up-- you just use a little.

I actually use green dot powder for subsonic 308w loads-- works well but took quite a bit of time to find start points for load data

 

[Pdyson]

Found this article on reduced creedmoor loads using 4895. Significantly reduces speed, However it's still a long way from subsonic.

6.5 Creedmoor H4895 reduced loads: 123 SMK and 142 SMK

6.5 Creedmoor H4895 reduced loads: 123 SMK and 142 SMK When I started reloading center-fire rifle in the 90s I was mostly concerned with maximizing velocity. A younger guy, I tried to squeeze ever…

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