memtb
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Get it off the Lead Sled. Those suck.
Great point ……I should've caught that! memtb
Get it off the Lead Sled. Those suck.
I have not had issues getting sub MOA accuracy from other rifles using the sled, but what is the preferred alternative? I will give it a shotDitch the lead sled first as others have said. There is no need to wait 3 minutes between shots, if it can't shoot a 5 shot group without wandering it needs a new barrel. Wouldn't hurt to put a proven scope on it to verify just to make sure it's not a scope issue.
Anything, literally anything else. Sleds are the bane of all things holy in this world.I have not had issues getting sub MOA accuracy from other rifles using the sled, but what is the preferred alternative?
I have not had issues getting sub MOA accuracy from other rifles using the sled, but what is the preferred alternative? I will give it a shot
I do not currently have access to another scope with a 30mm tube. May have to get some 1" mounts after I check everything else mentioned so far. Trying to start with the simplest/cheapest fixes first.
I did not read through all the replies so if someone else mentioned this, it must be somewhat sound counsel;I just recently purchased a Tikka T3X Lite Roughtech in 6.5 PRC and mounted a VX-6HD 3-18x50 with Unknown Munitions scope rings on it. Torqued everything down to the right specs and took it to the range.
First 3 shot group (after setting scope) using 147gr. ELD-M was .5" @ 100 yards from a Magpul Bi-pod and a rear bag on the shooting bench. I was content and for the majority of my hunting that would be sufficient.
It got dark on me so I came back the following weekend and shot some more. My shot groups were averaging 1.25" to 1.5". I ran to the gun shop and grabbed a box of the 143gr. ELD-X to see if they would shoot better. I averaged 2" groups with the ELD-X and noticed some stringing up and to the right. From the research I have done, it seems like the barrel warming could've caused this. (Although, I normally wait +5 minutes between shots to let it cool off)
I also started to think the bipod was the issue so I verified that the barrel was free floating when the bipod was loaded. That did not seem to be the problem.
Ultimately I swapped to a lead sled to take the Bi-pod out of the equation. I cleaned my gun and reshot both types of ammo with the ELD-X averaging 1.5" groups, and the ELD-M averaging slightly less than 1" groups, but having occasional flyers about 2" from the point of aim. I saw slight improvement, but still wasn't where I want to be.
So far I have 54 rounds through the rifle, and am not very impressed with the accuracy. I intend to try the 156 gr. Bergers, but have not been able to find them locally. I am not currently able to reload, so I would like to find a factory round that is at least MOA or better until I get setup where I can reload myself.
I am fairly new to the long range shooting so I figured I would ask those that are more experienced than myself. Any advice or ideas, regardless of how simple are appreciated.
Thanks
I have shot rifles since I was a kid, but started teaching myself proper shooting fundamentals a couple of years ago. I shoulder square to the gun, control my breathing by exhaling until my movement is minimized, squeeze the trigger and follow through, and with this rifle I do not feel the recoil is an issue at all. I am able to shoot my 30-06 with .5" groups shooting exactly as I have with this new rifle. Not to say that I can't improve, but I genuinely feel like the issue lies outside of my shooting skill.I did not read through all the replies so if someone else mentioned this, it must be somewhat sound counsel;
I mean no disrespect but you're a new member and did not mention how much experience you have with rifle shooting. So, how much? Shouldering, grip (both hands), body and optical alignment, breath control, trigger squeeze, recoil flinch tendency are all factors that can contribute to your experience.
That is my concern as well. I like this thing a lot, and am going to try troubleshooting it as well as swapping ammo. If that doesn't help, I may reach out to Tikka about their sub MOA guarantee to see if they are able to help.I also had a new T3 that would not group worth a flip. Thought it was a bedding problem but I couldn't get any improvement no matter what I tried. Sold it and bought a Sauer that groups every ammo better than the Tikka.
Guess I had a lemon which surprised me since my Tikka T1X 22 LR is an excellent shooter.
Excellent. I'm sure you've triple checked your scope mount and have the reticle aligned to the bore using a plumb line. If so and your shooting form is solid, it's possible your scope has a flawed erector. Maybe the best way to determine that is to mount a proven scope to confirm PoA and PoI are spot on, or send your scope to Leupold for warranty service. Scope flaws happen and Leupold has always been great with their Lifetime warranty in my experience, even on 20+ year old used scopes I've bought. I doubt the ammunition is solely responsible for your experience. Beyond these issues you may be experiencing a mass production rifle flaw related to bolt face : chamber and/or bore alignment. This too happens.I have shot rifles since I was a kid, but started teaching myself proper shooting fundamentals a couple of years ago. I shoulder square to the gun, control my breathing by exhaling until my movement is minimized, squeeze the trigger and follow through, and with this rifle I do not feel the recoil is an issue at all. I am able to shoot my 30-06 with .5" groups shooting exactly as I have with this new rifle. Not to say that I can't improve, but I genuinely feel like the issue lies outside of my shooting skill.