Absolute vs Hammer Hunter

nksmfamjp

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Looking at 6.5 Creedmoor. It can be a bit velocity challenged. Is there any real world experience with 123gr Absolute vs 124gr regular? I'd like to see over 3100fps from a 22" barrel. Can Absolute's get there safely? What are you actually seeing?

 

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What does velocity challenged mean?

 

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It means that I feel optimal velocity for a hunting round is 3000-3200 fps. 6.5 Creedmoor in std 130-140gr bullets falls short of that range. Looking for Absolutes as a possible solution.

 

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nksmfamjp said:

It means that I feel optimal velocity for a hunting round is 3000-3200 fps. 6.5 Creedmoor in std 130-140gr bullets falls short of that range. Looking for Absolutes as a possible solution.

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Okay, I mean everyone has their own weird preferences. I think you have the wrong cartridge, if that's your goal. A 22" creed isn't a speed demon, I got 3100 with a 110 gr hunter from a 22" barrel, But I wasn't pushing hard. Buy a magnum like a prc if you want to push harder.

 

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No, I know the cartridge range. I'm set on a std bolt face. I just want to know what people's experience with Absolute's is…..I'm struggling with the +300-400fps shown on the website. Just looking to hear actual experiences. I know we all try new stuff. I have not tried Absolute's yet.

 

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I would look at 109 absolutes.

16.5 inch 6.5 saum is at 3300

 

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I've easily obtained 3000 FPS with the 123 Absolutes with a very, very light load, so I think another 150 to 200 FPS is easily achievable. That said, I have chrono'd 2800+ with a barnes 127 LRX bullet and can attest to its effectiveness on mule deer. Last years buck dropped after 3 steps at 325 yds. The Absolutes at a starting velocity 300 to 400 FPS more from the CM will do an amazing job based on my experience with the 7MM Absolutes at 3200+ FPS on Cow elk.

 

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From Hammer's load data page:

 

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You can get there with the 120 ballistic tip as well. Nosler has load data.

 

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My son is knocking the snot out of deer with his one with his 6.5 needmoor and grendel

.264 Cal-109gr Absolute Hammer™ - Hammer Bullets

This Absolute Hammer™ will make your 6.5 Creedmoor super fast and flat shooting. Absolute Hammer™s do not line up with conventional load data. They are recommended only for experienced reloaders.

hammerbullets.com

 

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My son's 6.5 CM is running a Hornady SST 123 gr at 2650 through an 18" barrel…dropped a whitetail doe in her tracks at 500 yds 2 yrs ago…I have a hard time believing she would have been any more dead if he'd have been running at 3000-3200 fps…unless his shot placement wasn't as good…

 

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Search Absolute Hammer load data and Hammer Hunter load data on this Forum. Member shared data is posted & was just updated yesterday. That will answer your questions and give you some load data.

 

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Jspeed said:

My son's 6.5 CM is running a Hornady SST 123 gr at 2650 through an 18" barrel…dropped a whitetail doe in her tracks at 500 yds 2 yrs ago…I have a hard time believing she would have been any more dead if he'd have been running at 3000-3200 fps…unless his shot placement wasn't as good…

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Shot 123 SST's in my grendel prior to using Hammer Bullets. What I would go back to if they stop making them. Its a killer.

 

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GLTaylor said:

Search Absolute Hammer load data and Hammer Hunter load data on this Forum. Member shared data is posted & was just updated yesterday. That will answer your questions and give you some load data.

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Lots of real world experience on that spreadsheet. Mine's not on there but shows that the rule of start low and work applies as I didn't get the velocity at the powder charges that some are showing. My 6.5 Creed Christensen, 20 in bbl, 8 twist didn't get accuracy from the 124 Hunter, but gives 1/2 to 3/4 moa with the 123 gr Absolute over a 40+ gr charge of Varget. Virgin Nosler brass gave just under 2900 fps and once fired brass bumped up to just over 2900 but with light ejector swipes. It's seated a bit long with a 1/8 turn crimp into the second groove. OP is looking at a 22 in bbl so my load could shoot a bit faster but my guess is that a lot of powder would get burned looking to reliably meet the goal of 3100 fps.