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308 modification

Something has happened all at once, Making the rifle open its group. Scope, Scope mounts, Barrel stripping jacket material, Banged crown, If using suppressor check for bullet hitting baffles.
Another thing to check, Check the Firing Pin and Spring, If the firing pin spring is weak. Or something in firing pin channel could be slowing the strike.
Shooting through a chronograph may help find the problem.
 
nunya2222 said:
Hey

I have a 308 savage long range hunter. The rifle worked very well for about 4 years. All the sudden this year it's started to really get messed up. Not hitting on paper at 20. I think it's related to the rifles stock. I have kind of out grown the gun and want to go to a heavier caliber for hunting but would still like to hold on to my 308.

I'll primarily use it for spring black bear hunting and maybe antelope.

Anyways this is a long way for me to say I'm going to turn this rifle into a frankenstein. I'm thinking of about dropping the barrel and action into an MDT oryx chassis.

The barrel is currently 20 inches long. I have a banish 30 can I want to put on it. What do you guys think I can chop the barrel to and expect good performance at 500 and below. Good enough to take down a bear or antelope but doesn't need to be competition accurate. I'm looking for ethical accuracy not competition accuracy.

Any other modifications you might suggest would be appreciated.

I understand this isn't a dream build. With the exception of the chassis and barrel chop I'm not putting much money into it. In reality I'm just trying to do something different with my 308. I'll be spending more money on building a 300 win mag later this year.
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Do a trigger by rifle basix
 
Rotten said:
Just to clarify. My dad was born 1/5/45
He was born when the allies were bombing the hell out of Germany. He had absolutely nothing to do with the Nazis.
My grandparents were a live during Adolph Hitler's reign.
And what I can tell you from their experience is your getting the same thing regardless of who wins the presidency.
They will put you to war for their financial gains. As my Russian friend's said it doesn't matter who wins or losses someone will always be living in a mansion by the lake.
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Rotten, it absolutely matters this time. There is clear evidence with Trump, Kennedy, Gabbard, and Carlson that foreign wars will not be funded unless it's against our country. I have no faith in Government and have witnessed what you described, but I'm choosing to believe the Trump ticket and his transitioning team in their commitment to abstain from foreign wars. It wouldn't shock me if I was wrong but still going to believe.
 
john k said:
Rotten, it absolutely matters this time. There is clear evidence with Trump, Kennedy, Gabbard, and Carlson that foreign wars will not be funded unless it's against our country. I have no faith in Government and have witnessed what you described, but I'm choosing to believe the Trump ticket and his transitioning team in their commitment to abstain from foreign wars. It wouldn't shock me if I was wrong but still going to believe.
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Wait till the massive tariff on the imported goods be put in place. If you think the gunpowder is high now, you ain't seen nothing yet. Hodgdon Imports massive amounts of powder from Australia. They import the bulk of IMRs from Canada. Ramshot Imported from Belgium and the list goes on and on. I'd suspect a pound of powder will be way over $100.
 
Eric H said:
Wait till the massive tariff on the imported goods be put in place. If you think the gunpowder is high now, you ain't seen nothing yet. Hodgdon Imports massive amounts of powder from Australia. They import the bulk of IMRs from Canada. Ramshot Imported from Belgium and the list goes on and on. I'd suspect a pound of powder will be way over $100.
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There are some of us on this forum that have learned thru the past shortages during Obama, Covid, and other political debacles to try your best to have ample components. I'm grateful to have enough components to last me several years. I learned the hard way.
 
What's the round count on said rifle? I know we don't talk about burnt barrels with 308s, but it happens.

Don't be afraid to pull the barrel and put another one on it. It's a Savage. I have done quite a few now in the garage. Get the tools, parts, gauges, and watch a ton of youtube on how to do it. When you are done, take it to a gunsmith with your gauges and have him check headspace.

With a Savage, you could also swap bolt heads and go to a magnum of some sorts as you want to "go bigger".
 
john k said:
There are some of us on this forum that have learned thru the past shortages during Obama, Covid, and other political debacles to try your best to have ample components. I'm grateful to have enough components to last me several years. I learned the hard way.
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Me too. Been buying for over 10 years. Actually just traded for some very hard to get H4895 yesterday. Even have most of the hard to get Alliant powders. I'm set.
 
I don't want to high Jack the post with off topic comments.
How ever I do have story's of my grandmother trying to survive in Nazi Germany during the war. She was a devoted Catholic when they moved to Utah in 1965 and encountered the Mormons the only thing she did agree with them was stock piling supply's of food.
I think going through something like that definitely changes people. If you visited her you had to eat something every hour no joke.
I remember going up to Timpanogas cave and them saying no food or drink in the cave. As soon as the lights went out she was shoving cookies in me and my brothers pockets telling us to eat fast.
Any way I think stock piling items for future calamity is a very wise idea. Just don't forget that it can all be taken away in second's.
Just look at the hurricane victim's.
 
nunya2222 said:
Hey

I have a 308 savage long range hunter. The rifle worked very well for about 4 years. All the sudden this year it's started to really get messed up. Not hitting on paper at 20. I think it's related to the rifles stock. I have kind of out grown the gun and want to go to a heavier caliber for hunting but would still like to hold on to my 308.

I'll primarily use it for spring black bear hunting and maybe antelope.

Anyways this is a long way for me to say I'm going to turn this rifle into a frankenstein. I'm thinking of about dropping the barrel and action into an MDT oryx chassis.

The barrel is currently 20 inches long. I have a banish 30 can I want to put on it. What do you guys think I can chop the barrel to and expect good performance at 500 and below. Good enough to take down a bear or antelope but doesn't need to be competition accurate. I'm looking for ethical accuracy not competition accuracy.

Any other modifications you might suggest would be appreciated.

I understand this isn't a dream build. With the exception of the chassis and barrel chop I'm not putting much money into it. In reality I'm just trying to do something different with my 308. I'll be spending more money on building a 300 win mag later this year.
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Do you remember what the jump was originally to the L/G? If so how much of a difference is it now? I have a 6CM barrel that I used for target and after about 1k rounds accuracy was dramatically changed. Throat erosion was about .02. Had my GS rechamber/reset and now use for hunting only and it's a tack driver. Cheaper than buying a new barrel.
 
john k said:
Rotten, it absolutely matters this time. There is clear evidence with Trump, Kennedy, Gabbard, and Carlson that foreign wars will not be funded unless it's against our country. I have no faith in Government and have witnessed what you described, but I'm choosing to believe the Trump ticket and his transitioning team in their commitment to abstain from foreign wars. It wouldn't shock me if I was wrong but still going to believe.
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To your point….obtain a copy of "Dangerous Injustice " Sweeney. Reach your conclusion at that point. HTH
 
Eric H said:
Do you remember what the jump was originally to the L/G? If so how much of a difference is it now? I have a 6CM barrel that I used for target and after about 1k rounds accuracy was dramatically changed. Throat erosion was about .02. Had my GS rechamber/reset and now use for hunting only and it's a tack driver. Cheaper than buying a new barrel.
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I e got a oryx chassis I'd be willing to part with and a McGowan 308 barrel
 

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