Way no H-4198 anywhere?

Been looking for H-4198 for forever with zero success on line or OTC. Just about any other popular powder I could want has been in stock on line or at my local Cabela's including H-4350, H-4831, Varget, H-1000, even IMR 4064, 3031, 4831 but never H-4198.
Anyone have any idea or thoughts as to why this is? I mean Cabela's has 5 shelves full of various powders from Hodgdon, IMR, Ramshot, and Accurate and even lots of 8lb jugs.

Might want to shoot ADI an email and ask them.

DartonJager said:

Been looking for H-4198 for forever with zero success on line or OTC. Just about any other popular powder I could want has been in stock on line or at my local Cabela's including H-4350, H-4831, Varget, H-1000, even IMR 4064, 3031, 4831 but never H-4198.
Anyone have any idea or thoughts as to why this is? I mean Cabela's has 5 shelves full of various powders from Hodgdon, IMR, Ramshot, and Accurate and even lots of 8lb jugs.

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Lots of short range benchrest shooters have given up on H4198 for their 30BRs. I know a few who developed their 30BR loads with LT32.

Neighbor has been testing LT-30 in his 222 for UBR also.

bamban said:

Lots of short range benchrest shooters have given up on H4198 for their 30BRs. I know a few who developed their 30BR loads with LT32.

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Was that due to lack of powder, or does the LT32 perform that much better?

Gingerman said:

Was that due to lack of powder, or does the LT32 perform that much better?

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Lack, but LT32 does just as well grouping wise

bamban said:

Lack, but LT32 does just as well grouping wise

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I got a hankering for a little 6mm. 6BR probably. 2750fps 105-109 pill. Heavy gun, light recoiling cartridge!

I've been trying to find some for 6 years! Wanted it for 45-70. I've heard 133 or 135 was a good replacement. Not sure about which cartridge you're trying to use it in?

Thanks for all the replies. They helped convince me it's not a matter of me just not looking hard enough for H-4198. I actually use it ONLY for smokeless loads in my 10ML-II and in that rifle under any saboted .451-.458" projectile it shoots simply amazing groups. I also took my longest shot on game to date and using an all copper Barnes 290 grain T-MZ hit a very large doe quartering towards me at a LRF confirmed 405 yards.
MV of that load was 2365fps. Bullet entered into her shoulder facing me, shattering it passed through both lungs exited her ribcage after pulverizing a rib. Literally turned everything that projectile passed through to mush. Obviously she was DRT.

Made the shot still hunting around a picked corn field late in the December ML season in my home state on public land. Was snowing quite hard and during the considerable recoil of the shot I lost sight of her. Was a bit unsure what to do because she was the biggest doe of many in the picked corn field that was full of knee and thigh stalks .
A few minuets went buy and none of the other doe and several small bucks did anything and just continued eating, I began to seriously think I had missed. With sun set rapidly approaching and I had a decently long walk to where she was standing I decided I'd best go see if I missed or not. When I got to where I was reasonably sure she was standing there she was on the ground hidden by a patch of thigh high stalks and the snow showed she simply dropped and never moved.

I have two other powders that work as well in my 10ML-II but none that give great consistent accuracy with all bullet weights from 245 to 325. Stuff is just magic in my 10ML-II

I mistook two empty 1lb jugs for full ones, as I now only have +/-1.75lbs of it left. That's about enough for less than 180 loadings.

ARlife4me said:

I've been trying to find some for 6 years! Wanted it for 45-70. I've heard 133 or 135 was a good replacement. Not sure about which cartridge you're trying to use it in?

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Yep IMO/IME H-4198 is as good as it gets for the 45/70 and is also why its the magic wand of accuracy in my 10ML-II.

I've got just under 2lbs, in Minnesota, if someone is looking to trade.

cb186 said:

I've got just under 2lbs, in Minnesota, if someone is looking to trade.

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Hey bud I know it's almost a year later but do you still have this. I'll pay good

ARlife4me said:

I've been trying to find some for 6 years! Wanted it for 45-70. I've heard 133 or 135 was a good replacement. Not sure about which cartridge you're trying to use it in?

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Everything seems to work in a 45-70. I prefer IMR/H 4198 but RE 7 and 3031 work well too. Recently, I've been loading some 350 Berry bullets for just blasting away. I have some 4064 and 4166 sitting around collecting dust. They both work very well for reduced loads around 1,600fps. Much more accurate than I expected.

Varmint Hunter said:

Everything seems to work in a 45-70. I prefer IMR/H 4198 but RE 7 and 3031 work well too. Recently, I've been loading some 350 Berry bullets for just blasting away. I have some 4064 and 4166 sitting around collecting dust. They both work very well for reduced loads around 1,600fps. Much more accurate than I expected.

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i do have the imr version and 10x, but do want too try 7 also. 10x w/ 350a-frame look to be a good combo.